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@SmudgeTheInsultCat Supplemented with the list of things you learned which had been proven wrong before you graduated.  @SmudgeTheInsultCat Besides the "eat 5 small meals not 3 big meals" I can't really think of anything @GreenSkyOverMe @SmudgeTheInsultCat Well, it might be niche knowledge, but practically everything I was taught about genetics and biology has been overturned since 1994. It‘s probably similar in other areas, I just don‘t know it. I would actually pay for such a website. @zappes @GreenSkyOverMe @SmudgeTheInsultCat any particular reason for the year 1994? Was there some major discovery in biology or is it a more or less random year, chosen by you? :) By following transgender-debates I recently realized, that I miss a lot of modern biology knowledge 🙈 @ytami @GreenSkyOverMe @SmudgeTheInsultCat It's the year I got my Abitur (school diploma after 13 years in Germany), i.e. the last year in which somebody taught me something in that area. :) @zappes @GreenSkyOverMe @SmudgeTheInsultCat ah, okay. For me it is roughly the year I learned to walk 😅 @zappes @GreenSkyOverMe @SmudgeTheInsultCat Not so much genetics but rather our knowledge of the molecular biology of the gene has changed substantially since I was in college in the late seventies. I was helping someone study for their exam recently and there are multiple components and steps in the process that we did not even know about in 1980. @ic3ix Well, you did know about Restriction Endonucleases back then :-) @zappes @GreenSkyOverMe @SmudgeTheInsultCat @carl @zappes @GreenSkyOverMe @SmudgeTheInsultCat Yes, I’m not that old. 😛 I think restriction enzymes were discovered in the early 1950s and their ability to cleave specific base pair sequences was demonstrated about 20 years later. @ic3ix Arber got a Nobel Prize in 1973 for the discovery, if I remember correctly. @zappes @GreenSkyOverMe @SmudgeTheInsultCat @SmudgeTheInsultCat That would be incredibly useful. Sadly, it needs also to account for curriculum of particular countries which would incredibly difficult to do. Crowd source. Have people enter wrong facts, links to why it's wrong and the date and place they were taught it wrongly. Other people can add their own time and place. Maybe have another kind of reaction for "I was already taught it right there and then." Curriculum will usually not contain specific information anyway but at best the topics to be covered. So that wouldn't help anyway. @SmudgeTheInsultCat i graduated in the eighties and was *still* taught the rutherford model of the atom, so... @ghorwood @SmudgeTheInsultCat I was in a Canadian high school chemistry class around 2007ish and I remember the teacher telling us when we got to that model in the curriculum that was already considered out of date but it was useful as a teaching tool. That was pretty cool. @ghorwood @carl @SmudgeTheInsultCat the ptolemaic system of the planets explains the observed phenomena. @ghorwood But not all that are observable these days! So, a more refined model of planet movements has been put in place. That happened a couple of times since then. Repeat ad nauseam. @SmudgeTheInsultCat  @SmudgeTheInsultCat If you really want to throw gas on the fire, add location and it can tell you what facts have *stopped* being taught for political reasons. Don't need it. I graduated in '74, so that means all of what I was taught has been debunked by now.  @SmudgeTheInsultCat still upset that they thought Wegener was wrong about the continents (maybe my geography teacher was just very old) 🤔  They had a big argument and settled on a definition of planet which included "has cleared all the other bits and bobs out of its orbit" and Pluto has not done that. That's my rough understanding but there you go. 😀 @Cryptomon @SmudgeTheInsultCat Whether Pluto is classified as a planet or not has no impact on its observed and calculated properties. (Which have been constantly improving in accuracy over the years, sure.) The whole "is Pluto a planet or not" thing is not very interesting at all. And more specifically, it should be "is Pluto *classified* as a planet or not".  @SmudgeTheInsultCat @schmidt_fu@mstdn.social @SmudgeTheInsultCat@mas.to why do people want everything as an app nowadays? This is something I'd use like 5 times at most, it doesn't deserve 50MB or whatever on my phone @SmudgeTheInsultCat For the full effect, you'd also have to input where you lived when you were in high school. @SmudgeTheInsultCat Would actually love this, but I also need a locality one to tell me all the nonsense I was fed because I was in the Texas education system please. @SmudgeTheInsultCat probably can just use the edit history of the common misconceptions Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions  @SmudgeTheInsultCat I don't think there are any earth-shattering changes to the things I learned in high school. Math is still math, chemistry is still chemistry, physics is still physics. Hell, even 'keyboarding' hasn't changed since we're still all using QWERTY keyboards. The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is that we have a few more answers to questions (Higgs Boson, pictures of extra-solar planets) that we didn't have before. @JustinDerrick @SmudgeTheInsultCat Off the top of my head, in the field of Cellular Biology, I was taught the Endoplasmic Reticulum and the Golgi Bodies were separate structures but both involved in protein synthesis. Now we know the ER and GB are the same structure, the ER is viewed in a longitudinal section and the GB is viewed in a cross section. @JustinDerrick You didn't do humanities or social sciences in school? @carl @SmudgeTheInsultCat 1). It’s high school…. It’s meant to be an introduction & overview. 2). I’m Canadian, and as such, attended school in Canada. 3). I preferred the math & science track, so I chose those for my electives. @SmudgeTheInsultCat You mean like Friends Reunited but for facts? How about calling it Facts Reunited? @SmudgeTheInsultCat I'd like a reverse search available. Eg Through which time period has fusion power about 5 years away from providing us all with cheap and plentiful energy?  @SmudgeTheInsultCat Main practical difficulty is that this would have to account for even regional differences and individual schools with better or worse budgeting & administration. @SmudgeTheInsultCat my shorthand & typist teachers would like a word with you! @SmudgeTheInsultCat It should also include things that were already known to be wrong. It permanently puts "negative numbers don't exist" into practically every year and school combination, but also shows how thing are clinging on for well too long.  @robincapper I do believe that this part of learning has become more important with the endless possibilities of the www research. @SmudgeTheInsultCat@mas.to I learned Intelligent design in high school :inuhuh: does that count?  @SmudgeTheInsultCat Your veins look blue because the deoxygenated blood inside them is blue is the one that immediately pops into my mind. @Gaelan They actually aren't blue! It's an optical illusion. Deoxygenated blood is dark red. https://www.wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/mobile/2012/12/18/why-are-veins-blue/  @SmudgeTheInsultCat absolutely insane data set much of which hasn’t been digitized probably @SmudgeTheInsultCat @DaywalkingRedhead Pluto is the 9th planet (obvs.) But my favorite is: @SmudgeTheInsultCat @DaywalkingRedhead Yes! *because the overwhelming volume of it would make me feel so old, not because I wouldn’t/don’t want to learn the stuff @SmudgeTheInsultCat The thing is, you have to take into account when your teachers went to school, too…  @SmudgeTheInsultCat @SmudgeTheInsultCat @dasUnicorn It begs the immediate spin off idea: "Things, you were told back then that are still correct today - but no longer taught now."    yes when i was a kid they tought us that reichskonkordat hitler, for which the church is milking money from germans even now, was atheist ... sure ...  @SmudgeTheInsultCat ooooh. That would serve as a pretty cool book series tbh Here’s one: “Americans fundamentally oppose bigotry and there’s no way a fascist could ever become President.” @SmudgeTheInsultCat I recall my 9th grade science text stating that solar power would never work because sunlight is too dispersed to be practical  |
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