@davidrevoy a tough choice but it's nice that you are placing your mental health first!

@davidrevoy

Understandable, at those scales you need a moderators team, even smaller Discord servers tend to have at least a few

@davidrevoy C'est triste de devoir en arriver là à propos des commentaires à tes billets de blog.
Dans tous les cas, je ne peux que te remercier pour les magnifiques dessins que tu réalises et que tu partages ! Je suis fan de ton coup de crayon ! Bravo !!!

@davidrevoy sad but totally understandable. I've no comment system for the exact same reason, and asked to disable it if possible on some other occasions.

And you got death threads... wow? Didn't see that coming... so sorry to hear that but I hope you still get nice feedback on your posts here.

@davidrevoy
Triste mais sage.

@davidrevoy I don't know if you'd be interested but it's possible to replace them with comments coming from the fediverse: https://cassidyjames.com/blog/fediverse-blog-comments-mastodon/

Probably needs a lot of elbow grease to adapt to other blogging platforms, but maybe it's worth knowing about. :)

@davidrevoy Non... Des menaces de mort, sérieusement? T'es un des types les plus chics que je connaisse, toujours simple et bienveillant, et qui donne et partage sans rechercher de retour. Je suis atterré par ce que j'ai lu et appris là... #soutien

@davidrevoy It's a bit tough as none of the alternatives are as "directly connected" to the work as comments are, but at the same time... It's not like people can't connect with you if they want to.

I made a piddly little blog "system" a couple years back and I didn't even bother with comments, I just put a little colophon after each post that said "email me" hehe.

Kudos to you for making it this long, and with a much more popular blog than I've ever had to moderate 😊

@davidrevoy
That's sad. I do hope that the alternatives, like this Fedi account, work out for you.

Also... I'm horrified to hear you got death threats in comments. I didn't expect that *you* would get those. What you do is so positive, it's hard to imagine anyone getting angry about it.

Spam, I expected, of course.

Soutien inconditionnel ! @davidrevoy

@davidrevoy Tout d'abord merci pour ce retour d'expérience et pour avoir tenu bon pendant ces nombreuses années.
Je dois avouer que j'ai été surpris d'apprendre qu'il y ait autant de modération à faire (menaces de mort, sérieux ?) pour un blog qui n'évoque pas vraiment des sujets polémiques.
Est-ce que connais globalement quels sont tes contenus ou prises de positions qui inciterait à autant de haine de la part des rageux ?

@davidrevoy Totalement compréhensible. Et pour avoir essayé pas mal de chose pour pousser les commentaires côté fediverse, c'est que ces plugins se comportent comme des instances à part entière (pour la plupart) et donc avec les mêmes problèmes que tu as en temps normal.

@davidrevoy
Haters ? Death threats ? It doesn't make sense ! You're one of the nicest person i've met ! 😱

@davidrevoy

Soutient et plein de :blobcatheart: :blobcatheart: :blobcatheart:

@davidrevoy :flan_heart:​

@davidrevoy Oh, wow... it's sad, but understandable why that is necessary.

I'll just move to commenting, congratulating and cheering you on here, then!

:blobcatheart: 🧙‍♀️ 🎨 🖌️

@davidrevoy
I was following you on Twitter and when I moved here I decided to keep only your RSS, but now it's time to follow you back also here.
And my first comment/feedback is: good choice. Unfortunate, but good choice.
Keep up! 🖖🏻

@davidrevoy Je viens juste de lire, j'hallucine.
Tout mon soutien.
Ce monde me fait...
#soutine

@davidrevoy soutien++

@davidrevoy
What a adorable little drawing.
I'm following you since a few months ago , but I totally understand your situation regarding spam and hate mail.
What I'm surprised is with the death threats... Then again the www as we know it is becoming more and more agressive.
Anyway do share your blog posts around here. 💜🎩

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org It is sad how the world is nowadays.

@davidrevoy Well, Time has changed and Humans have forgotten on the other end the creators are (mostly) humans, too. BTW: Wanna buy something? New Pencils or glossy Paper sheets? 🤔 🤭

@davidrevoy
honestly can't conceive of how broken someone has to be to send death threats to the creator of Pepper & Carrot, which is quite possibly the most wholesome thing on the entire internet

I'm sorry that happened to you

@davidrevoy kudos for holding out for so long. i feel like we have seen the decline of comment systems for a good long while now, with how increasingly more involved it becomes to manage one to a degree that you’re not opening yourself to legal problems, or just a completely bad time.

C'est vraiment triste que même pour un artiste comme toi (dans les convictions que tu portes, et surtout dans le dessin, magnifique 💎) tu puisses te faire emmerder.

Se dire qu'à cause d'idiots, tu dois te "censurer" dans tes interactions, c'est chiant.
Mais l'important, c'est ton bien être pour continuer à proposer ce que tu souhaites.

Soutien incompressible @davidrevoy, parce que ton contenu, c'est vraiment stylé (pour moi :D)

@davidrevoy C'est vraiment fou que des gens envoient de tels commentaires, je n'en reviens pas! Tout mon soutien!!!

@davidrevoy je te comprends tellement... Perso j'ai pris cette décision il y a 8 ans et j'ai jamais regretté. Tellement plus de sérénité quand je publie un truc !

@davidrevoy That is sad to hear, a hard but well understood decision. We give you a warm hug and heart from the both of us! Keep up your amazing art and comics.

@davidrevoy That is really sad, but not surprising :(.

An alternative I am playing with (but I am very far from having your audience size) is to add a link "Discuss this article on Mastodon" at the end of my posts. With just a link (not inlined Mastodon comments), you give readers a place to comment but the moderation stays on Mastodon side.

@davidrevoy C'est absolument incroyable de lire ce qui t'arrive. Désolée que tu aies dû prendre ces mesures, ta sécurité avant tout.

@davidrevoy

Glad to be a follower here in the fediverse.

Thank you for the great work you do, and don't beat yourself up about cutting off the commenting system. Mean-spirited bozos are too much drain on a person to endure.

Bon chance!

@davidrevoy it's sad that in this internet era, spam continues to grow up and filling the bits with its garbage and waste resources...
sad to lost the battle in front of that big sh*t...
and sad to read about that dark death threats... really there's people with empty brains wasting their time in that?? really sad...
From my side only can say: keep doing your great work, and really thanks for share with everyone...
time to add your RSS to my Akregator!
THANKS! 👍

@davidrevoy
That's reasonable and understandable, yet it's still a bit sad. At least we still have spaces like this one.

@davidrevoy
Je suis désolé d'apprendre ça, mais t'as eu raison. Priorité à la santé.
Courage à toi.

@davidrevoy If anything this will allow you to migrate to a static system eventually.

@davidrevoy Je me connecte très rarement à mastodon, et aujourd'hui que j'y passe en coup de vent j'apprends la triste nouvelle, et ce alors que je n'ai commenté que deux ou trois fois sur le blog :( C'est dommage, mais assez compréhensible vu ce que tu décris, le pire étant les menaces de morts pour un rien. T'es quelqu'un de super sympa et attentionné, t'as toujours répondu à mes questions quand je t'ai contacté : ça m'attriste et enrage que tu ais dû subir tout ça. :( Hug de soutient.

@davidrevoy I am curious about this line: "I had to make a deposit to the police for the many death threats I received."
Sad to here you receive death threats. But why make a deposit to the police? Shouldn't they act without a fee? I'm not trolling, just a bit naive maybe.

@davidrevoy
Ça ne sera sûrement pas suffisant pour contrebalancer toutes ces horreurs, mais tiens, prends ça :
:blobcatheart: :blobcatheart: :blobcatheart:

Et merci pour tout tes magnifiques dessins et BD 😍

@davidrevoy
Vraiment triste pour toi que tu doives en arriver là.

Soutien et courage pour la suite, j'espère que ces gens haineux prendront un jour conscience de leur bêtise et du mal qu'ils font.

@davidrevoy
Désolé d'apprendre ça.
J'espère que ça va te libérer d'un poids mentalement et que tu pourras te sentir plus tranquille.

@davidrevoy
Bon sang ! Mais qu'est devenu internet pour en arriver là ?

Je comprends ta décision et de soutiens dans ce sens.

Bon courage et surtout continue de nous ravir avec tes merveilleuses créations !

@davidrevoy

You make people smile and I am glad I found you - and Pepper and Carrot - here.

You need to look after yourself - so you are doing the right thing.

Be well ! And thank you.

@davidrevoy :blobcatheart:

@davidrevoy je dirais "et merde! Encore un" 😞 Comme de nombreux autres bloggers (Timo, sebsauvage, Gee...) les espaces de commentaires disparaissent les 1 après les autres. Je n'ai pas bien compris pourquoi tu ne parviens pas à faire une copie des commentaires de masto. Déporter les commentaires n'est pas une bonne idée ? Tu ne peux pas profiter de la modération de l'instance que tu utilises ? En tous cas, tu as mon humble soutien et mes remerciements pour tout ce que tu partages

@davidrevoy ✊🏻

@davidrevoy C'est horrible ce qu'il t'arrive.
Courage, on est tous derrière toi !

@davidrevoy It takes so much more work and energy to to build up and to maintain than to destroy. It's a shame that a handful of cranks can ruin something good for so many. But that's certainly not your fault, and I fully support your decision. I'm just sad it came to that.

@davidrevoy 😲 Yikes! It's terrible to have to put up with that. You've convinced me to never add a commenting system to anything I put online. But, seriously - thanks for sharing your wonderful talent and art work with the world.

@davidrevoy In case this might help anyone, I use giscus (https://giscus.app). Works really well since my blog repo is hosted on GitHub and no self-hosting required. Commentors would at least need a GitHub account, so would mainly be a dev demographic. Can always lock people from creating GitHub Discussions or ban them if necessary. Absolutely no tolerance for non-constructive comments either; no one has any time for that.

@davidrevoy

My mastodon comments are displayed on my Hugo blog. But, I'm on my own mastodon instance...

I have to think about a way to display them in case my instance has to disappear at some point...

@davidrevoy I'm sorry you are losing something that you find so valuable.

I personally continue to follow the Slashdot-era rule: "Never, ever read the comments." But I'm a visitor, not the owner seeking feedback.

@davidrevoy Désolé que tu aies eu à gérer toute cette énergie négative. J'ai retiré les commentaires de mon site aussi mais c'était uniquement à cause des spams. Dis-toi au moins que si quelqu'un prend du temps dans sa journée pour t'agacer alors que vous ne vous connaissez même pas, c'est que tu as eu un effet sur sa vie même si ce n'est pas positif. D'une certaine façon, c'est peut-être mieux que de créer et publier du contenu qui ne suscite aucune réaction.

@davidrevoy Triste, mais j'imagine que cela devait arriver : tu avais déjà parlé des spams et de la menace de mort (dans un article ou sur Masto, je ne sais plus), et j'imagine un peu la charge mentale technique que cela a dû être pour coder des filtres antispam :/ La charge mentale émotionnelle, elle, je ne l'imagine pas (soutien)

@davidrevoy Understandable. Hope all nice people will still be in touch with you.

@davidrevoy :blobcatheart:

@davidrevoy Sad, but understandable. Moderation is one of the challenges of our times and maybe something that can only work in communities where we can help each other.

FWIW, if you ever revisit this there's a thing called cactus comments which basically implements comments via the matrix chat protocol, so your comment section is like a matrix room (and AFAIK you can moderate it in a similar way to matrix rooms, so others could help you). https://cactus.chat/

@davidrevoy I haven't visited your blog, but I think I've seen your artwork floating around. I'm sorry to hear what caused you to stop comments and I'm shocked to hear the reasons... Why does it happen? For what?

Hope disabling comments helps indeed.

@davidrevoy @ctietze I did that almost twelve years ago, and have never looked back.

@davidrevoy It’s a shame to see the end of this system, but I understand why. It’s a shame that I won’t be able to read the comments after every blog post anymore, which is something that I found almost as interesting as the posts themselves. Maybe you could implement links to the posts you made on your socials where people can comment at the bottom of the blog posts, but I can understand why you wouldn’t.

@davidrevoy I'm sorry to hear that, though I think people have found using WebMentions and/or federated responses to be a pretty sufficient alternative.