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wet forest moon folklorist

the tough thing is you just don’t really see it until you write a post that really extends beyond your own followers and into the nether regions of the fediverse. so one person can be ready to implode from dealing with this pattern while hundreds of others really have no idea that it even exists! not good and def an impediment to attracting some of the thinkers and writers we’d love to have in this space

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Kameka

@seachanger you’re highlighting, IMO, one of the key challenges/issues with federation. Similar ideas/concepts can be surfaced across the fediverse, but not connected and amplified (to demonstrate support) because they’re decentralized and dispersed. It’s great to have democratization, but if there’s no simple way to aggregate or connect, then it’s less beneficial in the long run.

wet forest moon folklorist

@kameka yeah and compounded by inability to text search. I think there are ways to solve these problems but as we see on every single major platform, leadership does not necessarily want the same things as the user base. In theory, we should be able to have more influence as users here but theory is not always praxis!

Kameka

@seachanger in season 1 of social media, it was possible to “build it, and they will come” because it was a novelty. Unfortunately, for the new social media companies and platforms being built now, we’re in season 3 of social media. What users want is paramount to what companies and platforms want to build (especially since there is healthy competition for the same users). The past few weeks have been a live use case of this, IMO: Threads decreased engagement, Bluesky this week…

kuna

@kameka@mastodon.social @seachanger@alaskan.social While I agree with your broader point about the Fediverse, I think the invisibility of replies is something specific to how Mastodon (and similar server software like Pleroma, Misskey, and forks thereof) handle federation, but not forced by federation itself.

This can be already mitigated on the microblogging fedi by
https://a.gup.pe/ groups that create a bot that boosts everything posted to the group, making sure that everyone subscribed sees all replies. The forum (or reddit-like, as in Lemmy or Kbin) fedi bakes this into the software, by making the communities/magazines act as boosters of all replies. This doesn't work all that well with the microblogging apps, because while the guppe groups are somewhat manageable due to low traffic, if I (for example) subscribed to some moderately lively Beehaw communities, then my home timeline would be Beehaw upon Beehaw and nothing but Beehaw, most of it replies to post I don't care about. It would be nice to have something like an automated "silent boost" that just puts replies in my server for me to read at my own leisure, but not hammering my notifications and home timeline, but I don't know if this is in any way possible.

@kameka@mastodon.social @seachanger@alaskan.social While I agree with your broader point about the Fediverse, I think the invisibility of replies is something specific to how Mastodon (and similar server software like Pleroma, Misskey, and forks thereof) handle federation, but not forced by federation itself.

This can be already mitigated on the microblogging fedi by
https://a.gup.pe/ groups that create a bot that boosts everything posted to the group, making sure that everyone subscribed sees all...

ms. information

@seachanger everyone is baffled when i explain that private/dm replies from reply guys drove me off this platform for months

wet forest moon folklorist

@gren ugh I’m so sorry. I feel kind of terrible because for the first year I was here I just didn’t experience it in the same way that I have on other platforms. I’m so used to being bombarded on FB and twitter by White Men Who Explain Things to Me that mastodon actually was a blissful relief. Until my posts started getting more boosts and then suddenly I understood. They are like an infinite army of robot soldiers sprinting toward my defenses lol. Shoot one and more appear

Craig Maloney ☕

@seachanger I have a reputation of writing disclaimers on the tail end of my posts asking folks to not reply with certain things. Sometimes it's done very tongue-and-cheek, but the main onus for it is I've gotten the same damn replies from folks before and they were just as unhelpful then as they would be on any new post.

There's a lot of folks that want to help people, but much like a crowd rushing to help one person it can turn into a stampede.

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