@jon yes but they look like emails. Just making sure you don't confuse your audience if you want a toot or an email.

@jon It still bothers me that @matrix did not adopt this scheme.

@jon Focus on the user and the NAMESPACE.

While mastodon.social is likely to continue using the Mastodon, ActivityPub federation is agnostic to which app the user accesses their account and the namespace (instance) may migrate from mastodon to another application.

@jon Texterviewer?

@jon drop the first @ and do proper URIs with scheme:

@jon what service makes posting to all of them at the same time easy?

@jon@henshaw.social i think user@whatever.thefuck looks better because 2 @'s looks weird

@jon they won't :-( People just can't seem to get over the idea that everything has to be owned by some brand, backed by someone's interests. The idea of a network being separate from an app is just so foreign it must be socialism or something...

@jon @bigzaphod 👏👏👏

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#fediverse .... They key words are init.

QRcode ftw

@jon You can follow me on BlueSky as @james.crid.land - and here on Mastodon by searching for @james@crid.land (which mostly works). Disappointingly, therefore, this isn’t going to fly…

@jon this won’t work because many people can fake the URL. MSTDN. Social is not Mastodon.Social and so on. Misspelled words are a thing, I can barely write mastodon. Now imagine something like @XYZofABC@domain.com ; you’ll have a hard time or might get errors.

@jon i read normalize tits

@jon Easy to convey why this new way with now more than one social network doing the whole thing Twitter used to be alone in.

You don’t email: president. You email: president@whitehouse.gov

We’re out of the days off CompuServe style microblogging. There’s more than a major player now, time to do what we did once CompuServe needed to do more than 71234,56.

I get why press still put @ exampleusername and assume everyone will just think Twitter but that thinking is becoming dated.

@jon That's how Fediverse already works. If Twitter or Threads use the same naming scheme, it wouldn't change much if they do not federate with Fediverse.

@jon or you could just leave Twitter to continue its death spiral without you.

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🥥 Normalize it, Jon?
I don't even understand it. 🥥

@jon complicado lo veo.

@jon @Npars01

This isn’t what we’re doing? 🤔

@jon wait Twitter is federated now????

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@jon Gets too complicated with obscure Mastodon instance URLs.

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Yeah, and their specific area of focus (e.g. mastodon.art, mastodon.politics, mastodon.juggling, etc.) if they're looking to build and/or capitalize on a reputation of whatever sort.

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or vomit on the commercial data collectors and propaganda turds.

@jon and for 2/3 of these the long username is the correct one anyways, so this is pretty based

@jon ironically #Threads is somewhat normalising that already. Every account there appears with the host showing (of which there of course currently is only one, threads.net). I think that shows they have been intent on joining the Fediverse. Business realities may yet change that (we will have to wait and see).

@jon
I like the way you think

@jon And then better yet, allow people on twitter, Instagram, threads and everywhere else to follow me on a single account, perhaps here at mastodon.scot, so I don’t have to copy and paste everything several times and can spend more time actually living my life!

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@jon what the h e double hockey sticks is that second one 🤮

@jon how does this work with Bluesky, whose handles are arbitrary domain names without a user?

@jon Missing bluesky in that list, which makes it slightly different as there the domain is part of the username without a second @

@jon Anything is possible except MUSKIISM!😂😂😂

@jon I sense an #IETF #RFC coming. 🤓

@jon and @user@facebook.com!

@jon
An amendment I would add is the notion indicate whether this is is wenfingerable or not.

Alternatively, let the universal id be an HTTP URI. After all that is what ActivityPub standard calls for, as well.

@jon posts like this really make me miss tagging people in a retweet.

There is plenty of MSM in this platform - but they are mostly transmit only

@jon One great way to leverage this common sense solution is to contact the people responsible for widely used style guides.

For example, readers can contact the Chicago Manual of Style and ask them about this, pointing out this suggestion as a very good idea.
https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/submitaquestion.html

@jon This, but also de-emphasize the domain.

@jon
Fuck this! Pre-@ was invented by lazy unfederated service developers to ease text parsing.
The only correct form is 'email-like' account@server. I use it for proprietary services too. You can contact me via Xenocephal@Telegram

@jon honestly though, I kinda wish we could have domain name user names, like a domain name searchable by mastodon that would point to my profile like bsky

@jon We've been normalized with this with @sans@under.tale

@jon no

@jon The first can be problematic if there is an account on your server (and it could happen) that has same username but it is a totally different person, it mentions a wrong person then.

The latter is... I dunno how can I type that character on my keyboard. But as others said: I consider this as an email address. In emails I mention the full email address to ensure the recipient(s) can reach the mentioned person.

So, for me, it will stay @hron84@twitter.com forever.

@jon Possibly my OCD talking, but I wish we could omit the preceding "@". Stupid email, hogging the namespace! And I wish there was a way to unambiguously flag which service a qualified username refers to, without having to add an out of band clarification, or expecting users to either know domains by heart, or visit them in a browser to check.

@jon @lime360@gamejolt.com