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@spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport As we did before for this site, we are “building in public” & in stages. So while our tool for sign-ups now points to mastodon.social for NOW we propose this round-robin plan. Give us feedback. We think this model will work for any Mastodon/Fedi onboarding for apps and portals. Principles of it could be adapted for places like #calkey, #kbin, #peertube, #joinfediverse & others...to balance the ease of sign-ups to decentralization. 22 comments
@brian @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport 👍 Very up for suggestions as to how the round robin proposal could include X number of mid-range servers that meed the other requirements. And we are opening up the full source here and would welcome multi-language versions of this site and all the tools, including the onboarding tool. @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport I respect the compromise that the official app has made for its sign-ups. There is a default “click here to sign up for a big one” button, which could be your round robin choice. But then a “Find another server” option with sorting by different criteria and categories. Bonus points: even better than the Mastodon app’s flow would be some explanation about why someone might want to consider going one way or the other. @brian @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Yes it could. The goal of this site is to incite ideas like that for every onboarding solution for the Fediverse.  @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Over 60k registered users? What the hell's the point? We comply with every single piece of criteria except we'll never be at 60k users, ever, but we serve our geographical area very well. Why don't you run the user through a wizard and then generate a list of instances that have opted in with detailed descriptions? You could make one of the questions user count. This approach does nothing. @mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Hi @mike - would definitely be up for Canadian.social to be in a future round robin. The initial set of 60K registered users was just a stab objective metrics for high capacity servers. Very up for suggestions to move that down to numbers that would hit solid but mid-level serves as well. And welcome exactly this feedback. @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Sorry got my back up as I don't think a lot of really good instances would ever hit those numbers. I apreciate the transparency and the effort. @jdp23 @mike @brian @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Taking notes on all this, thanks! Definitely will update the MAU and registered users numbers, but want to think more about what still ensures high capacity in an objective way. Up for suggestions to those numbers. @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @jdp23 @mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport “what still ensures high capacity in an objective way. Up for suggestions to those numbers.” I’m probably just dense, but I’m not grocking why there needs to be an arbitrary number of users to define high capacity. There are sites that report metrics on the uptime of instances, which seems to be a better measure than number of users. @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @jdp23 @mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Saying it another way: I think the ultimate goal is to get a new user attached to the right instance. If they don’t know or care, then fine, go to .social. But if they have specific niche interests, then helping to guide them towards options is in support of “getting them attached to the right instance.” tl;dr - best fit > server size @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport A few suggestions: Sports should be follow category. There is a super active sports community on Mastodon. Hockey is missing from your sports hashtag topics. This is an unforgivable sin. #HNOM I picked some follow categories went to the next step and automatically followed a a bunch of people. Maybe an intermediary step asking if you want to follow these people? Great first steps! @mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Thank you! Marking down all these notes! @mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Which top accounts would you recommend for sports? Our goal here was: 1. not bots or no Twitter cross-posting accounts with no human involved 2. Actively and regularly posting on topic @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport I'm primarily focused on hockey, look at the #HNOM hashtag and you should find a lot of users there. Also @TheHockeyWriters is a non bot account. @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport 1) These are the NHL hashtags used on Masto: @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport 2) @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport also if you're wondering what #HNOM stands for: @OutOnTheMoors @mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Very up for ideas on how to add new metrics to allow mid-sized but high capacity servers to the round robin for sure! @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @OutOnTheMoors @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Maybe MAU to registered user ratio on servers over 100 registered users? I think it really comes down to the wizard for onboarding. Questions designed to drill down on region, hobbies, interests, then present options that represent the input. Some people want a small well defined community, others want to get lost in a crowd. 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I’m not a huge fan of the “make the big sites bigger” approach, even with the round Robin. I understand that lowers the barrier to entry for newbies, but I also think that raising awareness about specialized or regional instances is an important part of Federation.