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🔥 We are excited to let everyone know that our full website is now live! We hope this will be an easy way for new users to get started with #Mastodon & join the wider #Fediverse & an organizing hub to build & spread a better, more open social web of ALL fediverse offerings. With the #RedditMigration in full force & the likely #Barcelona launch bringing new attention to the Fediverse it is all the more urgent to help #TakeBackSocial 54 comments
@spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport I’m not a huge fan of the “make the big sites bigger” approach, even with the round Robin. I understand that lowers the barrier to entry for newbies, but I also think that raising awareness about specialized or regional instances is an important part of Federation. @brian @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport 👍 Very up for suggestions as to how the round robin proposal could include X number of mid-range servers that meed the other requirements. And we are opening up the full source here and would welcome multi-language versions of this site and all the tools, including the onboarding tool. @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport I respect the compromise that the official app has made for its sign-ups. There is a default “click here to sign up for a big one” button, which could be your round robin choice. But then a “Find another server” option with sorting by different criteria and categories. Bonus points: even better than the Mastodon app’s flow would be some explanation about why someone might want to consider going one way or the other. @brian @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Yes it could. The goal of this site is to incite ideas like that for every onboarding solution for the Fediverse.  @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Over 60k registered users? What the hell's the point? We comply with every single piece of criteria except we'll never be at 60k users, ever, but we serve our geographical area very well. Why don't you run the user through a wizard and then generate a list of instances that have opted in with detailed descriptions? You could make one of the questions user count. This approach does nothing. @mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Hi @mike - would definitely be up for Canadian.social to be in a future round robin. The initial set of 60K registered users was just a stab objective metrics for high capacity servers. Very up for suggestions to move that down to numbers that would hit solid but mid-level serves as well. And welcome exactly this feedback. @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Sorry got my back up as I don't think a lot of really good instances would ever hit those numbers. I apreciate the transparency and the effort. @jdp23 @mike @brian @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Taking notes on all this, thanks! Definitely will update the MAU and registered users numbers, but want to think more about what still ensures high capacity in an objective way. Up for suggestions to those numbers. @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @jdp23 @mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport “what still ensures high capacity in an objective way. Up for suggestions to those numbers.” I’m probably just dense, but I’m not grocking why there needs to be an arbitrary number of users to define high capacity. There are sites that report metrics on the uptime of instances, which seems to be a better measure than number of users. @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @jdp23 @mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Saying it another way: I think the ultimate goal is to get a new user attached to the right instance. If they don’t know or care, then fine, go to .social. But if they have specific niche interests, then helping to guide them towards options is in support of “getting them attached to the right instance.” tl;dr - best fit > server size @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport A few suggestions: Sports should be follow category. There is a super active sports community on Mastodon. Hockey is missing from your sports hashtag topics. This is an unforgivable sin. #HNOM I picked some follow categories went to the next step and automatically followed a a bunch of people. Maybe an intermediary step asking if you want to follow these people? Great first steps! @mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Thank you! Marking down all these notes! @mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Which top accounts would you recommend for sports? Our goal here was: 1. not bots or no Twitter cross-posting accounts with no human involved 2. Actively and regularly posting on topic @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport I'm primarily focused on hockey, look at the #HNOM hashtag and you should find a lot of users there. Also @TheHockeyWriters is a non bot account. @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport 1) These are the NHL hashtags used on Masto: @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport 2) @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport also if you're wondering what #HNOM stands for: @OutOnTheMoors @mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Very up for ideas on how to add new metrics to allow mid-sized but high capacity servers to the round robin for sure! @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @OutOnTheMoors @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Maybe MAU to registered user ratio on servers over 100 registered users? I think it really comes down to the wizard for onboarding. Questions designed to drill down on region, hobbies, interests, then present options that represent the input. Some people want a small well defined community, others want to get lost in a crowd. Also moderation style has a big part to play.  @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport With all that said: Do test out the new site and DM us with any feedback, ideas, questions or bugs. Later we will post the top organizing projects and ideas for how we can use everyone's help to evolve the site and community from here. And if you like it, please do share it far and wide to help #takebacksocial ✊ (And it turns out we have an action tool for that: https://spreadmastodon.org/utilities/share-spread-mastodon)  @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport If I were a new user signing up, it would concern me being asked to enter my new password for a Mastodon server into an unaffiliated web portal.  @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social the hamburger menu doesn’t seem to work in portrait view in iOS Safari or Firefox. One must rotate their phone to access the menu. @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Looks great - tiny bit of unrequested feedback, if you're also looking to help technically less comptent people like me - I didn't at first understand I had to click the "do the thing" button before picking "Go to next step" versus "Skip this step" (the binary choice I was expecting was "Do the thing" versus "Skip this step"). @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport This is really cool. Just ran through it from my existing account and found a big list of new accounts and topics to follow. @spada @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport 🔥 Love that review! Thanks for checking it out!   @Tomb @spreadmastodon It wouldn’t, but Reddit users might go looking for another place to be @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport This message popped up on my feed, but I don’t know who you all are, and I’m wary of giving away my login information without knowing what’s going to happen when I do. @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @klauspforr @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Is this site only available in English? If so, it needs to be in a wide variety of languages, and to suggest servers that support those languages. @benjamingeer @klauspforr @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport it is FOR NOW. One big project we want to kick of is volunteer/organizers help creating other language versions of the site, and the tools here.  @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport a little uncomfortable giving you full control of my account @aardvark @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Always good to be careful. There are lots of parts of the site that do not need logging in to see.  @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @anildash @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport You should really have a section for promoting third party apps. They make the experience of Mastodon *much* better. I bounce between @ivory @MonaApp and @IceCubesApp myself. Using the official app is painful by comparison and I would’ve never stuck around if that was my only experience. @nmn @anildash @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport @ivory @MonaApp @IceCubesApp Agreed! You might not have gotten to that part of the site yet: @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @anildash @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport @ivory @MonaApp @IceCubesApp Interesting. I think my feedback here would be that this page (or any of the 5 steps) aren’t really discoverable. Perhaps they are once you login, but I don’t think that’s the right decision. (Specially since the login ask me to input my password on a domain that is not my own instance) Can I contribute on GH? @nmn @anildash @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport @ivory @MonaApp @IceCubesApp Will shout when it's live on GH. And taking down these notes.   @spreadmastodon Looks nice and professional. Congratulations! Couple of ideas: * more adjectives for the scroller: authentic, not-manipulated, safe, billionaire-free. * add "share on Twitter/FB/Insta/e-mail..." buttons? That's where the potential users are ... * The German spelling is actually gGmbH not gGMBH. Perhaps in much smaller font, the disclaimer distracts a bit.  @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Looks like a great start. To me the toughest call is instant registration. I guess maybe that's the only way for this kind of low friction onboarding (we don't need to spell out every detail here but I would allow temporary limits on posting or rate limits or the like if servers seem to need them). |
Gregory's Server
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Shortly we will be opening up all the code used in this website to a full Open Source license.
Not everything would apply, but we would hope this open source code could be used by anyone building out a similar onboarding portals for the Fedi.
For example: #Calkey, #Pixelfed, #Kbin or #Bookwyrm or
#Goldfish or other sites may find parts of the code here useful and not have to rebuild EVERYTHING from scratch.
#FediverseMigration #opensource
@spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport
Shortly we will be opening up all the code used in this website to a full Open Source license.
Not everything would apply, but we would hope this open source code could be used by anyone building out a similar onboarding portals for the Fedi.
For example: #Calkey, #Pixelfed, #Kbin or #Bookwyrm or
#Goldfish or other sites may find parts of the code here useful and not have to rebuild EVERYTHING from scratch.