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Mike Fraser :Jets: :flag:

@spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Over 60k registered users? What the hell's the point? We comply with every single piece of criteria except we'll never be at 60k users, ever, but we serve our geographical area very well. Why don't you run the user through a wizard and then generate a list of instances that have opted in with detailed descriptions? You could make one of the questions user count. This approach does nothing.

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@mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport

Hi @mike - would definitely be up for Canadian.social to be in a future round robin.

The initial set of 60K registered users was just a stab objective metrics for high capacity servers. Very up for suggestions to move that down to numbers that would hit solid but mid-level serves as well.

And welcome exactly this feedback.

Mike Fraser :Jets: :flag:

@spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Sorry got my back up as I don't think a lot of really good instances would ever hit those numbers. I apreciate the transparency and the effort.

Jon

I agree with @mike and @CrazyMyra that the 60K limit's problmeatic and with @brian about the problems of the "make the big sites bigger" approach. What's really needed is a series of questions that matches people to an instance where they're likely to have a good initial experience -- good moderation as a minimum bar, and beyond that based on geography, interests, or diversity. Sending everybody to .social is likely to be counter-productive.

@spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport

I agree with @mike and @CrazyMyra that the 60K limit's problmeatic and with @brian about the problems of the "make the big sites bigger" approach. What's really needed is a series of questions that matches people to an instance where they're likely to have a good initial experience -- good moderation as a minimum bar, and beyond that based on geography, interests, or diversity. Sending everybody to .social is likely to be counter-productive.

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@jdp23 @mike @brian @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport

Taking notes on all this, thanks! Definitely will update the MAU and registered users numbers, but want to think more about what still ensures high capacity in an objective way. Up for suggestions to those numbers.

Brian Lawson

@spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @jdp23 @mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport

“what still ensures high capacity in an objective way. Up for suggestions to those numbers.”

I’m probably just dense, but I’m not grocking why there needs to be an arbitrary number of users to define high capacity. There are sites that report metrics on the uptime of instances, which seems to be a better measure than number of users.

Brian Lawson

@spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @jdp23 @mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport

Saying it another way: I think the ultimate goal is to get a new user attached to the right instance. If they don’t know or care, then fine, go to .social. But if they have specific niche interests, then helping to guide them towards options is in support of “getting them attached to the right instance.”

tl;dr - best fit > server size

Mike Fraser :Jets: :flag:

@spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport A few suggestions:

Sports should be follow category. There is a super active sports community on Mastodon.

Hockey is missing from your sports hashtag topics. This is an unforgivable sin. #HNOM

I picked some follow categories went to the next step and automatically followed a a bunch of people. Maybe an intermediary step asking if you want to follow these people?

Great first steps!

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@mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport

Which top accounts would you recommend for sports? Our goal here was:

1. not bots or no Twitter cross-posting accounts with no human involved

2. Actively and regularly posting on topic

Mike Fraser :Jets: :flag:

@spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport I'm primarily focused on hockey, look at the #HNOM hashtag and you should find a lot of users there. Also @TheHockeyWriters is a non bot account.

CrazyMyra

@mike @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport
Fully behind Mike's point here. Our instance isn't regional, but it's one of the few mainly dedicated to the sort of content you used to find on "Funny Twitter" (ie jokes, memes, shitposting, etc). With just a couple of hundred members, we're never going to be a "recommended" instance on size. And, because few of us use hashtags - there's no better way to indicate you're not funny than putting #/funny on every post - it's difficult to find us.
Initiatives like this are accidentally designed to exclude a lot.

@mike @spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport
Fully behind Mike's point here. Our instance isn't regional, but it's one of the few mainly dedicated to the sort of content you used to find on "Funny Twitter" (ie jokes, memes, shitposting, etc). With just a couple of hundred members, we're never going to be a "recommended" instance on size. And, because few of us use hashtags - there's no better way to indicate you're not funny than putting #/funny on every post...

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@OutOnTheMoors @mike @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport

Very up for ideas on how to add new metrics to allow mid-sized but high capacity servers to the round robin for sure!

Mike Fraser :Jets: :flag:

@spreadmastodon@mastodon.social @OutOnTheMoors @spreadmastodon@venera.social @fediversereport Maybe MAU to registered user ratio on servers over 100 registered users? I think it really comes down to the wizard for onboarding. Questions designed to drill down on region, hobbies, interests, then present options that represent the input. Some people want a small well defined community, others want to get lost in a crowd. Also moderation style has a big part to play.

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