 We regret to inform you that Mastodon has decided to leave the F-Droid Reproducible Builds project. Going forward, Mastodon updates on F-Droid will be maintained by the F-Droid team and signed with an unique per-app key generated by F-Droid. If you installed Mastodon through F-Droid, please uninstall and reinstall it to keep receiving updates. 104 comments
  @fdroidorg FYI to arguebots out there, I don't have any insider knowledge, this is just my opinionated reaction to an open source project taking action to disable automated reproducible builds. They must have plans for their build to change in such a way that it can no longer be reproducible. Presumably this means incorporating some closed source into it. They could just be adding google sign-in into the app 🤷♀️  @Bitplumber @louis Before you respond with things like this, please do your research so you don't look quite so silly. The app is moving to a built-in updater system. Nothing to do with closed source as you so quickly assumed. Like come on! People just "summarizing" yet really they are just "making stuff up" because that is NOT what was said in any way. Please stop spreading false information. You're only confusing EVERYONE. @SylvieLorxu @fdroidorg how on earth Android apps can come with auto-updaters in the first place?!  @SamantazFox @fdroidorg But you're right that Google doesn't allow this. The official Mastodon app actually has a special flavour for Google without in-app updater, but the Mastodon team was unwilling to provide .apk files for it (stating that it was too much work to supply that on top of the .aab they build for Google). And thus, F-Droid was left without an .apk file that was compliant with F-Droid policy. And after a lot of difficulty it was decided to drop reproducible builds, sadly.  @SylvieLorxu @SamantazFox @fdroidorg I don't like that. In app updates in more and more apps means yet more redundant code bloat. Let dedicated package managers / app stores do what they're there for  @project1enigma @SylvieLorxu @SamantazFox @fdroidorg Seriously, in-app updaters are stupid. Let the package manager do its job. Built-in updaters is the shitty outdated Windows way of doing things. If I download a version from your website I want it to stay that way, otherwise I would've downloaded it from a repository with a package manager.  @SylvieLorxu @fdroidorg #shosetsu has an in app updater that is configured to just open f-droid ;p @SylvieLorxu @fdroidorg ehm, correction. The in app updater just gives you the direct download link from the F-Droid server I forgot why I didn't make it just open the app  @SylvieLorxu GitHub is worst, many countries are blocked by GitHub and history of problems. Some one should report this to them.  @fdroidorg @mho   @louis @jele @fdroidorg  @bookstardust Have a look at my article with the source links: @louis Well, sadly the link lead to nowhere, so i recommend adding a screenshot. i have no clue about the F-droid issue, i hope Mastodon as cooperation could explain that at some point. However, all he said was that there is a clash between old and new users. That decentralisation helps closing communities and Twitter users do have different expectations on social media. @louis 1. We are only talking about the official Mastodon app (which no one uses)  @louis @jele @fdroidorg i am on the Discord server and must have missed that. What channel and time is the message on? @louis i find that to be a poor summarization of what he said. He said that the mid-sized instances are generally not good for random people who want a "Twitter" experience. They are good for "whatever community wants to use them to be isolated amongst themselves." I've been disappointed with Eugen on several issues, but he didn't say anything about how non-large instances should be isolated from others.   @fdroidorg Along with their approach to on-boarding, this isn't making them look too good. @fdroidorg I just recently saw their app on f-droid. But since I'm very happy with @Tusky ,I had no reason to install it. I'm glad I haven't done it. @fdroidorg If you installed Mastodn through F-Droid, please use at least a fork of it like @megalodon or @moshidon @fdroidorg i was starting to freak out, and then i remember i don't even use it lol @fdroidorg I guess this doesn't affect @Tusky Correct? Ich denke, das betrifft nicht #Tusky. Richtig? @dwrweb @fdroidorg @Tusky So, only the official Mastodon app changed signature and needs a re-install. Tusky is still on the same signature as day one and updates will keep arriving with no user action needed.   @fdroidorg If you installed Mastodon through F-Droid, please uninstall and use at least a fork of it like @megalodon or @moshidon @jr @sergiofdezsaez @fdroidorg if someone throws the missing steps at me, i might as well see if i can follow them as i'd love to have megalodon listed on f-droid - but i don't have the capacities to figure this out myself at the moment @fdroidorg @mrscientific@mastodon.social @fdroidorg@floss.social   "universal web app"???
Once upon a time, known as a w3c compliant web site, for true accessibility to all... @fdroidorg @HailSatan@metalhead.club @fdroidorg@floss.social @mtz767@troet.cafe @fdroidorg@floss.social @fdroidorg Eh ben je suis content d'avoir opté pour @Tusky du coup :-) ( Well, I'm glad I chose Tusky then :-) )   @fdroidorg  @fdroidorg Fortunately there are some very good forks, like Moshidon.  The so called "official App" is crap anyway ;-) https://f-droid.org/packages/com.keylesspalace.tusky/ Also consider to choose another nice server software without all the restrictions that Masto comes with! @Queenero89 @fdroidorg Buff, qué movimiento más raro y más opaco no? :anime_toradora:  @fdroidorg I'd say they should ditch the official client anyway and let them focus on the server software. Their team can afford to specialize now that the ecosystem has exploded with alternative clients. @fdroidorg to the people that will see this post, this is not inherently bad. This is simply Mastodon moving from app updates in F-Droid to an in-app updater, which is against F-Droid’s inclusion policy. It’s a very minor difference of opinion, not an indication that Mastodon will become closed source. This has never been so much as implied by the Mastodon team. @raracool @fdroidorg what worries me more, is that Mastodon does not seem to really care about F-Droid users at all. Although multiple people from the F-Droid team recommended them to communicate the necessary manual update steps it seems like they don't care... Considering the way grishka & Co. argue about reproducible builds, it seems to be more of a matter with their competence. Besides, you aren't making any friends by dropping F-Droid - for an in-app updater at that. @fdroidorg meh, so what? I ditched fdroid a while ago over security issues. They’re slowly getting there but its still not secure. @fdroidorg it's too bad how this went down. I wish @Mastodon would have been easier to work with on this issue. Mastodon and FDroid are no longer working together to ensure both release on FDroid and Play Store are the same copy. Moving forward, people that download Mastodon from Play Store will have to trust Mastodon are actually using the public source code and vice versa.  @fdroidorg I do wonder at the motivation though. If it's similar to Proton's, or something more heinous.  @fdroidorg We did not leave the F-Droid Reproducible Builds project, because we never entered it in the first place. It was not an active decision by us; F-Droid manages their own app repository and decides which apps go in and how they are built. Our development process results in two artifacts, a AAB build for the Play Store, and an APK build that is published on GitHub, both of which are made from the same 100% open-source, GPL code. @fdroidorg Wow. I don't use an app for the Fediverse, but spreading lies - and getting caught - will hurt your project. This needs a hell of an explanation or i am done with your store. What a cheap shot, didn't expect this. |
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