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Jele

@fdroidorg
What a mess. Whats wrong with the developers there?

8 May 2023 at 17:54 | Wall-to-wall | Open on norden.social
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@jele @fdroidorg They start to extract value out of the Mastodon brand and begin to isolate from the Fediverse.

Unfortunately, thanks to the media, the public perception has come to equate "Mastodon" with the Fediverse. Eugen, as CEO of Mastodon Corporation, has understood this very well and is now implementing his strategy of going it alone. Just yesterday I read on the Discord server how he talked about the fact that instances that do not belong to the super big ones should better be operated in isolation. Heard correctly!

@jele @fdroidorg They start to extract value out of the Mastodon brand and begin to isolate from the Fediverse.

Unfortunately, thanks to the media, the public perception has come to equate "Mastodon" with the Fediverse. Eugen, as CEO of Mastodon Corporation, has understood this very well and is now implementing his strategy of going it alone. Just yesterday I read on the Discord server how he talked about the fact that instances that do not belong to the super big ones should better be operated in...

8 May 2023 at 18:29 | Open on emacs.ch
radioactivestardust

@louis @jele @fdroidorg
I would be very happy about a source as in screenshot of said discord chat, because i would not give much about hearsay.

8 May 2023 at 20:43 | Open on bildung.social
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radioactivestardust

@louis Well, sadly the link lead to nowhere, so i recommend adding a screenshot.
Secondly, i cannot read out of that sentence, what you read into it.

i have no clue about the F-droid issue, i hope Mastodon as cooperation could explain that at some point. However, all he said was that there is a clash between old and new users. That decentralisation helps closing communities and Twitter users do have different expectations on social media.

8 May 2023 at 20:53 | Open on bildung.social
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@bookstardust Here is a screenshot of this particular message. But it is only one of many such statements recently made bei Eugen and the direction they take, regarding the iOS onboarding or the withdrawal from reproducible build on F-Droid, is consistent with that.

He made that very clear in this interview:

"[...], so for that reason, we have historically been trying to promote a healthy distribution of people across these different servers. However, I’ve learned over the years that there is no replacement for having a default, right? I’m sure you realize."

theverge.com/23658648/mastodon

@bookstardust Here is a screenshot of this particular message. But it is only one of many such statements recently made bei Eugen and the direction they take, regarding the iOS onboarding or the withdrawal from reproducible build on F-Droid, is consistent with that.

He made that very clear in this interview:
8 May 2023 at 21:00 | Open on emacs.ch
radioactivestardust

@louis 1. We are only talking about the official Mastodon app (which no one uses)
2. we are only talking about new users, trying to onboard to mastodon.
3. it is VERY complicated, for users with no technical background who are trained to make an account on whatever is currently "in". (Example: you use Tiktok, you go get app, you make account, you in).
Like how did you learn which browser to use or which Email account? Was it conscious choice? Is he not right that experience said to simplyfy?

8 May 2023 at 21:06 | Open on bildung.social
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@bookstardust Firstly, it's not accurate to say that "no one uses" the official Mastodon app. In fact, new users prefer to use the official app because it is "official" and carries the Mastodon brand. You yourself say: "you go get app, you make account, you in". That's exactly the behavior Mastodon Corporation is counting on to lock in new users to mastodon.social. And moving accounts between server is still difficult and you loose all your content.

Secondly, while Mastodon onboarding may have a steeper learning curve compared to some social media platforms, I disagree that it's "VERY complicated." Freedom often comes with the burden of choice and Mastodon got successful despite users having to choose an instance in the first place. You made your way to the Fediverse, didn't you?

Moreover, who said that Mastodon must compete with Twitter or Tiktok in the first place? That is a narrative that was formed by Eugen himself. Who wants Mastodon to be a copy of one of the big social media platforms.

Finally, while it's true that some users may be hesitant to try a new platform, I don't think that's a reason to simplify Mastodon. Rather, I believe that offering users more choice and diversity in social media options is actually a good thing. We can teach the public that participation in social media is not synonymous with subservience to a single U.S. tech company.

@bookstardust Firstly, it's not accurate to say that "no one uses" the official Mastodon app. In fact, new users prefer to use the official app because it is "official" and carries the Mastodon brand. You yourself say: "you go get app, you make account, you in". That's exactly the behavior Mastodon Corporation is counting on to lock in new users to mastodon.social. And moving accounts between server is still difficult and you loose all your content.

8 May 2023 at 21:23 | Open on emacs.ch
Nathan A. Stine

@louis @jele @fdroidorg i am on the Discord server and must have missed that. What channel and time is the message on?

8 May 2023 at 20:45 | Open on mastodon.social
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Nathan A. Stine

@louis i find that to be a poor summarization of what he said. He said that the mid-sized instances are generally not good for random people who want a "Twitter" experience. They are good for "whatever community wants to use them to be isolated amongst themselves."

I've been disappointed with Eugen on several issues, but he didn't say anything about how non-large instances should be isolated from others.

8 May 2023 at 20:56 | Open on mastodon.social
Jele

@louis
I personally wouldnt miss anything If his instance was isolated

But that ist unsocial and bad behaviour

9 May 2023 at 2:13 | Open on norden.social
Artificial Stupidity

@jele, classic “enshittification” in progress, just started @fdroidorg

8 May 2023 at 19:47 | Open on qoto.org
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