Call me crazy, but if I was in Jack Dorsey’s position, I would have converted Twitter into a consumer-owned and worker-owned co-op.
Sell it to everyone who uses Twitter and works on it.
That model works for many successful companies.
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Call me crazy, but if I was in Jack Dorsey’s position, I would have converted Twitter into a consumer-owned and worker-owned co-op. Sell it to everyone who uses Twitter and works on it. That model works for many successful companies. 94 comments
@atomicpoet hypercapitalists see worker ownership/coops as borderline communist. They can't even entertain the idea, let alone contemplate the possibility of it working I just asked Jack Dorsey why he doesn’t donate towards helping ActivityPub. Will he reply? Because I really want to know 🙂 Here’s how Jack Dorsey want to monetize Bluesky: 1. Subscriptions @atomicpoet what about selling user data to AI companies. Wasn’t there an online therapy or suicide hotline company that did that? Jack Dorsey says he doesn’t believe a company should own a protocol platform and distribution. Glad to hear he regrets Twitter. Sooo… when will Bluesky connect to multiple nodes? Jack Dorsey says if AT protocol has a CEO, it fails. I agree. I guess Bluesky should decentralize soon. Jack Dorsey doesn’t want AT protocol to be capable of DMs. That means they’re probably not coming to Bluesky either. Here’s what I don’t understand: why does Jack Dorsey pretend that ActivityPub doesn’t exist? @atomicpoet I would tend to think because he believes he will get enough screentime to make with his own protocol, which will give home more control and therefore more opportunity to monetarize @atomicpoet ha! Had I read the posts before those, I would have been more puzzled an would not have come to this answer @atomicpoet@mastodon.social Easy: Because it's become an existential threat to his business, just like Linux against Microsoft. Jack doesn't want to participate in a distributed, open world. He wants an empire he can control. @yuki2501 @atomicpoet YUP. All the while pretending like he’s some kind of man of the people. Where have I heard this song before? @yuki2501 @atomicpoet it is even sadder than that - he believes that he is only one who "gets" it. Any competition or open source entity is non-existant. @atomicpoet Because he doesn't control it. People who build things with open protocols don't become worshipped as tech gods. They may become names recognized in communities, but they don't get rich. @atomicpoet Because be wants to believe he’s “the only one”. His ego can’t allow him to not be in control. @atomicpoet a very normal symptom of a techie. Admitting that it did would undermine his own efforts. And if course, in his own head, he has a very clear picture of how his own stuff works but figuring out alternatives takes effort. @atomicpoet a borderline conspiracy theory I'm wondering about is whether Nostr was created solely to prevent the development efforts in decentralized social media from gathering around ActivityPub. In a "divide and conquer" kind of way. @atomicpoet He has a consistent stance about this since years: https://twitter.com/meduzen/status/1204858614789427207 @atomicpoet And there’s also this one where he says centralization is bad, but stilll the first decentralization move from Twitter was all about crypto: https://twitter.com/jack/status/1510314535671922689 @atomicpoet @atomicpoet competition. Also it was easy to understand that he does not believe in open standarts. @atomicpoet Because he wants to pretend it's illegitimate. In his way of thinking, if he deigns to notice ActivityPub, then ActivityPub gains legitimacy. He could also (& very likely does) have contempt for anything that's not paid for by VC funding, or designed with monetization in mind. @atomicpoet Because it doesn't make him money, because he's a fucking techbro, and I don't know why so many people seem to be surprised about this. @noondlyt @atomicpoet well it is in a way because the *clients* get to decide not some central body @noondlyt @atomicpoet I guess that could lots of reasons one being a way to pay for costs associated with running an instance? @peterdutoit @atomicpoet "I think we need to think a bit more out-of-the-box here... in a world with infinite searching and indexing options, we don't need ads any more. Ads are not a solution, they are part of the problem. We really want the content, the products, the music, the articles, the poetry, the news, the opinions, the movies[...] and we need to pay for them to their creators... but there are many ways to do that without ads. Let's focus on those ways." @atomicpoet Ehm. Hard no. Because he missed 4 (and any Robocop fan will get a kick out of this). 4. Harvest everything and sell everyone’s private data… @atomicpoet at a minimum BS has to pay for itself, and I'm sure mister altruistic Jack wants the $15M+ he's sunk into this back. And the parallel from his comment here is BS is being designed so everyone can monetize (for a modest fee of course) @atomicpoet Which translates to exacty the same problems of commercialising attention. The business model is the message. @atomicpoet Like so much crypto, I am having a hard time understanding the point of BS (thx @dj2mn ), is it anything more than jack re-issuing twitter? @atomicpoet yes, I was interested in donating 5$ a month in their earlier days before they had the option and had gone public, to support. But, would never consider doing so in Elon-world now. |
Because you are a good man, Chris.