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Packy Anderson

@atomicpoet Because he doesn't control it.

People who build things with open protocols don't become worshipped as tech gods. They may become names recognized in communities, but they don't get rich.

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Mike Beasley replied to Packy

@packy he doesn’t control at protocol either. he has one board seat and no control. so if it’s control he’s after he’s doing a terrible job of that.

Packy Anderson replied to Mike

@MikeBeas Okay, how about the "not invented here" phenomenon?

Rather than working on ActivityPub, something that already exists, he'll make sure BlueSky reinvents the wheel.

I still believe the credit for the invention is most of it. Jack can't be lauded as a tech innovator if he just embraces existing technology. I don't care if he's one seat on the board: he's getting ALL the credit for BlueSky.

Mike Beasley replied to Packy

@packy dude activitypub sucks. why would they build on it?

Packy Anderson replied to Mike

@MikeBeas Oh, you're one of THOSE people. What sucks about ActivityPub, and why couldn't that suckage be fixed by extending the protocol? Please be specific.

Just reiterating that it sucks doesn't clarify your current standing as a Jack Dorsey fanboy.

Mike Beasley replied to Packy

@packy i’m not a dorsey fanboy. i couldn’t care less about him. atproto isn’t his system. he gave people money but he didn’t create anything. they did.

and activitypub has moderation only based on what your server admin wants to moderate, zero true account portability, usernames based on your host that change if you move, and a lot of other terrible foundational choices. you can’t retrofit fixes for all of this stuff into the protocol.

Mike Beasley replied to Packy

@packy If you want to know why they didn’t use ActivityPub after they considered it, here’s their own explanation of the shortcomings. techdirt.com/2023/04/28/six-mo

Packy Anderson replied to Packy

@MikeBeas but also, why aren't you including @atomicpoet in your replies? I mean, **he's** the one asking the question. I was just speculating on the answer.

Mike Beasley replied to Packy

@packy @atomicpoet oh I didn’t realize I had accidentally over written his user name

Chris Trottier replied to Mike

@MikeBeas @packy Except a protocol already existed that did the same thing: Zot. And arguably, it does nomadic identity better.

What’s more, you ActivityPub and Zot can be used together. This is what Hubzilla does.

Chris Trottier replied to Mike

@MikeBeas @packy Well, clearly you do because you talk on and on about how AT is totally new and innovative—but it’s not.

Nope! The Fediverse has had nomadic identity for years.

Mike Beasley replied to Chris

@atomicpoet @packy the blue sky team evaluate it all the options and decided none of them were good enough. I don’t care what you think. You’re not building anything

Christopher replied to Mike

@MikeBeas@mas.to
Unless you're on the team that did the evaluating, you don't know what BlueSky did or did not evaluate. Just what they've said.
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social @packy@fosstodon.org

Mike Beasley replied to Chris

@atomicpoet @packy bluesky has built something very cool, cooler than what we’re using here, and I’m just gonna use that and be happy

Chris Trottier replied to Mike

@MikeBeas @packy I mean it’s clear you believe Bluesky is the second coming of Christ and is offering blowjobs to all.

I’m not drinking your Kool-Aid.

Mike Beasley replied to Chris

@atomicpoet @packy I said they had a cooler protocol and activitypub. You gotta get over it.

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