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 @pixelfed Yesterday, I expressed exasperation that Mastodon users don't try other Fediverse services. The sheer numbers bear witness too this. While Mastodon has ~10 million accounts, @pixelfed only has ~150,000 accounts. That means 9,850,000 of you have never tried @pixelfed -- and besides Mastodon, Pixelfed is one of the most popular Fediverse services. This unwillingness to try the rest of the Fediverse could end up killing the Fediverse! 81 comments
 The idea of #instagram never appealed to me, so I never saw any reason to try out #pixelfed, as they can also see my image posts. I am going to convert my #mastodon server to #calckey when they finish the database migration script, as they really are the most feature rich #fediverse platform. @pixelfed I'm taking a new approach to Fediverse evangelism. Previously, when people asked me about another Fediverse service such as @pixelfed, I'd spend untold hours explaining it to them -- even providing screenshots. People would go, "Oh, neat!" -- then never try it. But now if people ask me about @pixelfed, I'm going to tell them, "Try it!" Not only will this save me time and effort, it will hopefully provoke them to use services like @pixelfed. @jxce @pixelfed I'm happy to answer simple questions. I'm not happy to provide long drawn out tutorials that ultimately waste my time. This fellow wasn't just happy that I answered his question, he privately messaged me to thank me about urging him to try @pixelfed. Again, learning by doing is better than learning by reading and not doing.  @atomicpoet @pixelfed I definitely learn a lot more by doing as well, though being pointed in the right direction is always a huge help. I generally don't need things spelled out to me, but if I'm presented with a topic that can be really overwhelming, knowing where a reputable doc is makes that much less intimidating.  I realize that what a whole lot of people need is an ask. You can't just assume they will try something. You have to ask them. It's as though asking them gives them an incentive to do it. This isn't a bad thing, by the way -- just human behaviour. Someone asked me to do something today, and I did it because they asked. If not for the ask, I wouldn't have done it.  @atomicpoet I’m very concerned about bothering people, so I won’t go someplace or join in a group unless I’m explicitly invited. Someone said, “Maybe you should explain why I should be interested in Pixelfed.” But that could be a time suck. So meet me halfway and tell me how likely you are to try Pixelfed if I explain it to you.  @atomicpoet @ch0ccyra1n Cool. Well, you should try @pixelfed because it’s the easiest, most enjoyable way to appreciate art on the Fediverse. And it’s great for image sharing, to boot!  @atomicpoet better question is why use the app. The web version is excellent. @atomicpoet still, I see these mobile apps and don't understand why I should bother  Sometimes I get people who think they’re better than @pixelfed because they prefer text posting to image posting. But that’s like arguing that you’re better because you read newspapers instead of visit art galleries. @atomicpoet @pixelfed I think this just answered my core question - pixelfed is image focussed vs mastodons primary text focus - so it would be a way to separate my primarily picture focussed feed from my primarily discussion feeds @atomicpoet @pixelfed Is there an (android) app that has an option to have different Fedi accounts display according to the fediverse server it's on? It'd make cross-account favoriting and boosting easier. I'm interested in Pixelfed, but I have to admit I don't really understand it. Specifically, why does it need to be a whole separate service as opposed to, say, a Madoston client that specializes in photo sharing? Or just a separate section of an existing Mastodon client that specializes in photo sharing (like a 'stories' kind of thing)? I feel intimadated by the idea of essentially joining a Mastodon-but-its-only-photos and rebuilding a whole new social graph just for that. What am I missing? @atomicpoet I was curious about Pixelfed, got a spot and then you helped me to get the app which improved the experience. I've really enjoyed both Mastodon and Pixelfed, they're both nice. Thanks. @atomicpoet I wasn’t aware of the fediverse until recently, even though I started my Mastodon account in 2018. Only heard about it a few months ago. I already forgot what other possibilities there are, like pixelfed. Can you share a bit about that? @heleenkuiper This Wiki article will help you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse @atomicpoet @pixelfed The catch being *why* try it? What does pixelfed do that I can’t do on Mastodon? Or consume from mastodon? Perhaps it’s not the best example from my perspective - I don’t quite ‘get’ instagram either but I am feeling somewhat dense with this. I think I can understand why lemmy or friendica as they’re organized around discussions/groups (I think) but with all inter operating what’s the macro differences other than interface? @atomicpoet @pixelfed 100% - already trying it at pixelfed.de - and I don’t see a lot of distinction (but lots of nice photos)  @atomicpoet @pixelfed I have never used pixelfed, but I run a single-user mastodon server. In what practical ways is Pixelfed different from the /media feed on mastodon? Serious question. @atomicpoet @pixelfed Ok. They have a docker-compose.yml in their GitHub repo... Not sure why they don't lead with that in their deployment instructions page. I'll give it a go. @atomicpoet @pixelfed I spent an hour trying to get things working, but so far, no dice. 1. There's no official docker images. This is a barrier for me, because my hosting platform really just does containers. If anyone is in the know, I'd appreciate some advice.  @atomicpoet Maybe this it's just the wrong group of people to get excited about a service like pixelfeed? Many people came here from Twitter and that is already a different crowed compared to the majority of social media users. For example, I have an Instagram account and open the app maybe once every three to six months. Never post any pictures /upload reels. Deactivated FB years ago. Why should I join Pixelfeed? I have considered Bookwyrm as a Goodreads alternative but that's it @atomicpoet @pixelfed I think you are misunderstanding my point. I know what pixelfeed is. I have looked at an overview of Fediverse options after joining Mastodon last year to see if I wanted to join any other servers. But I have realized that I just don't do the things they offer. I never really used the "mainstream" version and I believe many (fomer) heavy Twitter users have similar preferences @atomicpoet @pixelfed No, but I think that the type of person who joined Mastodon from Twitter and is now active here is not a random sample of Twitter users. And I do believe that this sub-set is much less likely to be active on Instagram, yes. For example, pixelfeed is great for people who have lost their showcase on Insta due to changes over the last couple of years. Like many artists / tatoo artists. But that is not the crowd I personally have seen migrating from Twitter @atomicpoet @pixelfed I had forgotten I set up an account there! Promise to give it a solid try! 📸  @atomicpoet @pixelfed No unwillingness here. Have simply never heard of it. I expect many the same. Would using PixelFed to showcase my photography run the risk of segmenting followers? For example, I have @david, which I plan to start ramping up. I'd like to post items such as stories and announcements here, and of course photographs. But PixelFed is better for the photographs. If I create an account there for just the photographs, it seems that would split the followers? Wouldn't some follow only the photo account, missing the stories? Thank you! So my process would be to post the photography in the PixelFed account, then immediately boost it from the "main" account. I get that! What about the folks who find the PixelFed account? How would they know about the other one?  @atomicpoet @pixelfed I don’t know if it’s about willingness….it’s partially about discovery. I’m on an iPhone, put Pixelfed in the Apple Store search and get….50 Mastodon apps. You have to scroll down a bunch of times before you see a Pleroma, Misskey, or other app. So, for the casual user, they’re never going to see another Fediverse app. They’re going to assume Pixelfed is Mastodon on some level because that’s what search told them.  @atomicpoet @pixelfed Absolutely agree about fediverse diversity being important for the fediverse as a whole. But IMO (and I’m prob a broken record on this) needing new accounts for every fediverse platform is a source of real friction and a problem if the we/fediverse *value* diversity and the idea that the fediverse is the way social media should be. @atomicpoet @pixelfed  Still have not figured out how this works on Mastodon. Several times I wanted to check on something and it requested a new signup? @atomicpoet idk. As much as I wanna see the fediverse grow, this doesn’t really seem like a big deal. I used to use twitter but not tumblr or instagram. Some people are the same way with other platforms. It just kind of makes sense  @atomicpoet @pixelfed @dansup I have an account, but did not know at the time I could use my account from this instance. Now I believe I’m stuck with two fediverse accounts because I do not believe pixelfed.social is taking new users (it’s not longer listed on the service’s website). 🤷🏼♂️ Still using pixelfed, but I wish sign up would have been more clear. @atomicpoet to be completely honest, I'm just waiting for native/iOS support for other fediverse projects... mainly Pixelfed! [maybe 90% of my digital life is mobile] @atomicpoet @pixelfed @dansup I mean with Pixelfed specifically, I have no interest in a service without my IRL friends. I have a private Instagram and only approve people I know. I post public photos on Mastodon sometimes, but I would need my friends to come with me to move off Instagram. @atomicpoet @pixelfed I signed up for a Pixelfed a month or two ago. Sadly, I mostly post to image sites, like Flickr, from mobile and while I can access Pixelfed from mobile, it's via a browser and that doesn't always stay on my phone. And ... out of sight, out of mind as they say. @CharmingDolphins @pixelfed @PixelFed@pixelfed.social Pixelfed doesn't require a new network effect. It shares its network effect with Mastodon.  I'm not uninterested, I've made some half-hearted attempts to get on other services with my Mastodon account, and couldn't quite figure out how. What I've read implied that I wouldn't need a separate account for each service, and I really don't want to create yet another account. (I didn't try Pixelfed, however; I was more interested in some others.) @EverydayMoggie @pixelfed Yes, you will need a separate account for each service. You can’t sign up for Pixelfed using your Mastodon account. Usually, you sign up using your email. Sad. That does make it a lot less likely that I will. I have too damn many accounts scattered around the internets already. I changed an email address recently and it took me most of a day to update them.  @atomicpoet  @atomicpoet And I make recommendations on them from here from time to time. Especially Bookwyrm when people post Goodreads (Amazon owned) links. Simlary when people post IG links, I politely suggest Pixelfed. In order to gain users, we who are aware, do need to step up and recommend them ? @atomicpoet As someone who's been on Mastodon for a year now, I've been eyeing @pixelfed for months. I even follow @dansup to see some of the key progress that's being made on it. It's looking promising. The reason why Pixelfed is the size it is now, and why I still don't have an account, is because Instagram, the ecosystem Pixelfed is trying to recreate, is a mobile-centric social media. When Pixelfed's mobile app gets onto a store, I will make an account. @atomicpoet @pixelfed  @atomicpoet I joined rant.li today. I have no idea how it is connected but I think I am going to write there most days, for myself. Thanks for the encouragement to try new things here on the :fediverse: @atomicpoet I’m sure you have the best of intentions, but this comes across like a street preacher trying to make me feel guilty for not choosing his religion. It inspires avoidance rather than interest. @oldgeeksguide If Fascism bothers you less than my tone of voice, I don’t know what to tell you 🤷♂️ @atomicpoet And the street preacher tells me I’m going to hell if I don’t join his church, which just encourages me to walk away faster. |
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@atomicpoet @pixelfed@mastodon.social Pixelfed needs more advertising. Especially after they added a portfolio feature, because now PixelFed can compete with DeviantArt. in terms of artist exposure.