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 @atomicpoet when i said 'mammoth', i didnt mean 'the app', i was describing the size of this illustrative trojan horse. @Viss @atomicpoet @pixelfed @matrix @dansup @mike @fediversenews What would be the point, anyway? Without corporate-favourable algorithms to market/control people's online feeds. @zhuk Meta can build relevancy algorithms for their own Fediverse services. Nothing stops them. @atomicpoet @zhuk This is the real threat that we need to fight. Every software has its algorithms, but in the fediverse we must not accept servers that abusively manipulate the feeds of their users. If the relevance algorithm is kept secret β or even somehow patented β ban the software!  @atomicpoet In a nutshell, what is the rational for Streams? Is it addressing something missing in AP? @atomicpoet @atomicpoet @mike No, I have not had the pleasure, but I'd like to understand this better. I will do some homework and reach out. Can the two happily coexist, or would one ultimately threaten to, or actually displace the other? @shoq @mike I think Streams and Mastodon touch upon different needs. Mastodon is a microblogging platform whereas Streams is for macroblogging. One is minimal while the other is maximal. If I want a calendar or a fancy gallery, Streams is better for that use case. In this sense, Streams is more like Facebook than Twitter. So coexistence can definitely happen. @atomicpoet @pixelfed @matrix @dansup @mike @fediversenews what's the situation re chatbots etc on the verse here? @gzuckier Bots definitely exist but the common practice is that they self-identify as bots. @atomicpoet Does Matrix really count as being part of the Fediverse? If yes, then so would email, right? @adam I'm fine with email being part of the Fediverse, although it's of a different generation. @atomicpoet It can do all the same things Matrix does though. My understanding of the Fediverse was that it was a network of public social networks. I would say Matrix is a messaging protocol. Oh well, it's not important.  My philosophy hasn't changed since the 1970s. A message is a message. What transport network you worship on any given day isn't relevant.
@atomicpoet @adam@social.librem.one If people can solve Groups & people being able to communicate across the divide, I think you could get a lot of people to leave FB. Aside from inertia the three reasons I see most are: I can keep up with family and groups are high on why they stay. The other one is βI feel safeβ and I donβt know how to provide them with compelling info beyond what is already out there.  @atomicpoet @pixelfed @matrix @dansup @mike @fediversenews I think Facebook will go the way of AOL when they open up, just like AOL did. It will no longer matter what your domain is--you will be able to interact with users and their content whatever the source, and Facebook will no longer have the "everyone is there" advantage. Unfortunately, I still forsee people gravitating to accounts on Google or Outlook, but the content they access can now be housed anywhere (for better or worse). @atomicpoet @pixelfed @matrix @dansup @mike @fediversenews Just block all of metas instances. @atomicpoet |
@atomicpoet @pixelfed @matrix @dansup @mike @fediversenews my first reaction to hearing about facebook trying to join the fediverse was "hahaha nobody will federate with them", then i saw droves of folks essentially saying the same thing - so it'll be really interesting to see what happens, because the mammoth trojan horse they're wheeling up to the door sure has a lot of kind words hamfistedly slopped on the side, but you can plainly see cambrige analytica inside through the slats.