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Shoq

@atomicpoet In a nutshell, what is the rational for Streams? Is it addressing something missing in AP?

14 Mar 2023 at 20:50 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.social
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Chris Trottier

@shoq It uses what's termed the Nomad protocol which is, @mike describes it, essentially zot/11. This includes ActivityPub built in, but is an evolution of Hubzilla as well. It's very feature rich in a macroblogging sense, though I think someone could probably add some UI/UX magic to it.

14 Mar 2023 at 20:55 | Open on mastodon.social
Shoq

@atomicpoet
So, what's the vision? This extends AP while remaining masto compatible? Do these features play nicely with existing masto now?

14 Mar 2023 at 21:01 | Open on mastodon.social
Chris Trottier

@shoq It's complicated. For example, Streams has comment control. Mastodon doesn't. Streams also has nomadic identity while Mastodon doesn't.

Personally, I see Streams as being very cutting edge in terms of features.

I'm sure you've talked to @mike before. He's the one with the vision.

14 Mar 2023 at 21:05 | Open on mastodon.social
Shoq

@atomicpoet @mike No, I have not had the pleasure, but I'd like to understand this better. I will do some homework and reach out.

14 Mar 2023 at 21:07 | Open on mastodon.social
T L Holaday
Shoq

@atomicpoet @mike

Can the two happily coexist, or would one ultimately threaten to, or actually displace the other?

14 Mar 2023 at 21:08 | Open on mastodon.social
Chris Trottier

@shoq @mike I think Streams and Mastodon touch upon different needs. Mastodon is a microblogging platform whereas Streams is for macroblogging.

One is minimal while the other is maximal.

If I want a calendar or a fancy gallery, Streams is better for that use case.

In this sense, Streams is more like Facebook than Twitter.

So coexistence can definitely happen.

14 Mar 2023 at 21:12 | Open on mastodon.social
Jupiter Rowland
@Chris Trottier @Shoq @Fediverse News Vanilla #Streams, if installed straight from the code repository and used as-is, is more like Facebook than Twitter.

But that wasn't @mike's intention when he created (streams). Unlike Friendica, Hubzilla and all the following projects, and unlike Mastodon & Co., he did not intend (streams) to be a use-as-is #Fediverse platform. And (streams) isn't one.

Unlike Mastodon, Friendica, Hubzilla etc., (streams) is not a final product. It is a code repository.

The intention behind (streams) is to take the code, fork it and build something nice with it. You can run it as-is. It is being run as-is, see Rumbly. But Mike didn't make it for this.

Friendica is more like Facebook. (streams) is more like LEGO.
@Chris Trottier @Shoq @Fediverse News Vanilla #Streams, if installed straight from the code repository and used as-is, is more like Facebook than Twitter.

But that wasn't @mike's intention when he created (streams). Unlike Friendica, Hubzilla and all the following projects, and unlike Mastodon & Co., he did not intend (streams) to be a use-as-is #
14 Mar 2023 at 21:44 | Open on hub.netzgemeinde.eu
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