Gregory's Serverdiscord has ruined the definition of the word "server" for potentially an entire generation of people
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@esm@wetdry.world while I agree, man I can NOT keep calling these things "guilds" it hurts every time I say it   @esm@wetdry.world the com sci profs at my uni who use discord for their classes insist on calling it a "discord group" and honestly that should really be what it is  @esm so did many videogames in the past where you could crate a "server" which was basically just a hosted room by the developer.
It isn't that wrong to assume that a discord guild could be a individually hosted instance by discord tbh. @esm I wonder if that's the reason why mastodon decided to call their servers "instances".  @ifrit In this context, what is the difference? I don't know of any server that runs more than one instance. Particularly when we talk about Mastodon, because it's not very efficient and we often see the opposite: one instance with multiple servers (e.g. web server, sidekiq, database...) and in all cases it's still one public facing server handling all the traffic. @starsider "I don't know of any server that runs more than one instance", but could be "and we often see the opposite: one instance with multiple servers", because instance =/ server ;) @ifrit At the end I added "and in all cases it's still one public facing server handling all the traffic". I.e. when you connect to masto.ai you connect to one specific server. Anyway, it still makes more sense than with discord. A discord "server" is more like a chatroom that contains other chatrooms. They don't have an address, a host name, or anything like that. It's just some internal ID managed by discord's actual servers. @esm Can confirm, as a server administrator (the real kind, not the discord ones) this makes me pretty sad  @esm X11 is what did it for me. The server is here, where I'm typing and the client is over there, in the machine room.  @esm i understand WHY they decided to start calling them servers, because they were trying to replace teamspeak and mumble which WERE server based so they wanted to make it as easy as possible to migrate over. doesn't make me hate it any less though. i wish they would just call them guilds like they do internally. it sounds cringe but after 7 years of using that word it would have sounded natural  @esm@wetdry.world they literally call it so many different things themselves too 😭 I've seen Discords, Servers and Guilds   @esm conspiracy theory that they call them “servers” to make them seem more independent than they really are @esm little fact: you can spot a discord dev or bot dev if they call discord 'servers' 'guilds' instead. On the backend, that's what discord calls them.  @didek @esm Forking means having a schism in the project -- one group of people stays in the original codebase, another goes to work on a new *forked* codebase, and both codebases proceed to diverge. On GitHub, however, forking means creating a personal development branch, frequently meant to be merged back into the original codebase. Not a schism.    @esm they were going to call it "guild" but I think they changed it to market to teamspeak users. @esm@wetdry.world Discord is one of few pieces of software that I revile. #furry #therian @esm@wetdry.world to compensate we should just call everything a "guild" like god intended @esm some day I will set up one of the open source alternatives to Discord and Twitch. The difficulties are the bots/integrations between those projects, and normally they don't exist.  @esm good, burn down the client/server distinction and usher in the p2p future we should have had from the start  @esm Yeah, I had students tell me they had their own server to host gaming voice chats and I was like "Wow, good job, was it a lot of work?" thinking they paid for a VPS and acquired some basic admin skills. Recently I learned the truth... and I kind of dislike Discord without even using their service.  Well, the WWW ruined the word "server" for previous generation. Ask anyone older than 80; "It is a person who brings the food to the table."   @esm@wetdry.world mastodon? How does tha- servers? OH, SO IT'S LIKE DISCO- @esm I’ve never seen a mastodon post with over 1k favorites what did you do @millions stats on local posts tend to be larger/more accurate than on remote posts, this isn't the first time a post on the network (or on wdw!) has gotten this large   I usually call them communities. Or when I call them "servers", it's always in quotes. |
@esm yeah. i wish they would call them guilds like they do internally. or something like that :P like i like "discord server" as an expression but its Wrong !!