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 That’s not even talking about how the US tends to reflect what happens in the rest of the world. All the crazy conspiracies and imbecilic notions that Trumpists have? They also arrive in Europe about 3 to 5 years later. We have people fighting against « woke » in France now, even though it was never a real thing in the US, and even less so in France. We are already going down, fast. This will harm the entire world by ricochet. This election is a blow for humanity as a whole. 64 comments
And if someone says « but he won the popular vote », I will scream. Yes, that’s the problem. The problem isn’t that this fringe dictator spewing conspiracies and lies every single time he speaks has SOME supporters. The problem is that regular, normal people also were convinced by his crazy shit. That’s the problem. Normal people are now falling for this scam, again. More people now think this shit is fine. Preferable, even. That’s what difficult to swallow. Humanity is moronic. @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social As an American I take a bit of comfort seeing you speak on the issue. Even though I wish that things had gone differently and you wouldnt have to speak about it. @thelinuxEXP @gisgeek @thelinuxEXP I wouldn’t say that populism is popular. It only makes easy „solutions“ for complicated problems. People are easily manipulated by that. @thelinuxEXP Democracies are failing everywhere in the western world except maybe for Switzerland and a few Nordic countries, USA paves the way for this downfall, what we're seeing with Trump in the USA is gonna be what we'll see in France and other major western democracies in 5/10 years... @Idaho @thelinuxEXP Switzerland biggest strength is that the Government is a directorial system. This vote works however on a purely on social contracts between parties. btw with the SVP we have now over two decade a strong anti migration right conservative party. Even an AFD in the beginning would be a normal party in the swiss political system.  @thelinuxEXP The problem is the state of America. People are sincerely struggling, and in a bad place emotionally and economically. But they were being told everything is okay. Yeah, everything is okay but we have to choose between gas and groceries - forget medication and healthcare. It is really basic. @Teop_Versant And still, people will vote for the person who will harm them more. They call the opponent a socialist, when only socialist policies would help with redistributing wealth. They vote for the ultra capitalist candidate to fix the problems capitalism creates. That’s the sad part. They’re shooting themselves in the foot. @thelinuxEXP We are not deceived by hate speech. I did not vote because neither party will aid Palestine. But everybody is way over-thinking this. What you do not understand is that many Americans do not even understand what you are saying. It is really basic. Also, why tie peoples personal choices to some form of hatred? Americans are actually more intelligent than people think (IE "swayed" by Russia - lol) @Teop_Versant@mastodon.social @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social Thanks for being part of the reason Trump is winning 👍  @Teop_Versant @thelinuxEXP Not voting is probably the worst thing you could do IMHO. No offense. @thelinuxEXP @Teop_Versant and us, the world as a whole; Climate change, economy, war, are not confined to any country's borders, even more so when the country is one of the first economic and military powers of the world @tiesselune @thelinuxEXP "one of the first economic and military powers of the world". Not referring to the US then. America is not the first at anything, notwithstanding the best. But one of the youngest country's in the world. I always find that funny when they call democrats "Socialists" or even "communists"... Both parties are far right... so much so that when one of them is just a little less right, they are called communists! @Normand_Nadon All names which never actually factor in to the elections. Such language assumes everybody has a college degree and understands what they mean. Elections are a lot more basic; "Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago?". @Normand_Nadon Economics, whether or not you can actually pay all of your bills... trumps any other social issue, clearly. @Teop_Versant @Normand_Nadon @Teop_Versant Hahah yeah, their « extreme radical left » is merely hard right for most EU countries 😂 @thelinuxEXP studying deep history (10k+ years) - it has always been thus. As the saying goes, history is one damn thing after another... we're not as evolved as we'd love to think. @danberger While that may be true what worries are the use of nuclear weapons. Both candidates seemed to me to be unfit to lead a major nuclear power and actually they are probably unfit for the title of town mayor.  @thelinuxEXP well, i am more concerned that this will affect the german elections next year...right wing an conservative government..and they are spitting out lies after lies @EmpeRohr @thelinuxEXP we need snap elections @thelinuxEXP He didn't even win the popular vote in 2016, the electoral college is bullshit.  @thelinuxEXP And now look.. By definition, voting is a mirror image of the people voting. That is, it shows us what the people themselves are like in a given place. Now you have an accurate picture of the state of practically the entire American society. Of course, excluding some small percentage of exceptions. Unfortunately, this percentage does not count for anything actually.  @thelinuxEXP humanity being moronic is evident from the fact that the choice came down to these two in the first place. Having to watch Trump vs Biden was awful, but the coup against Biden and the non-choice of Kamala sealed the whole process for those in the center imo. And those on the far left saw that Kamala didnt do anything except fund Israel and its war crimes @thelinuxEXP Nick but Harris is a genocidal maniac tho. Literally, signed killing of babies in Gaza. @srkt@mastodon.social @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social right because the other fella isnt doing this @srkt Trump also is on the same side of the issue, and is worse virtually everywhere else. So, yeah. Shooting yourself in the foot or the head? @thelinuxEXP I agree. Eitherway is F'ed atleast with Trump. The americans are F'ed too not just the world. :) @thelinuxEXP If anything, Trumps victory is direct result of Democrat's actions, not humanity's fault. @thelinuxEXP Personally I just hope for the worst, I wish for a civil war, I want that country to go to hell. No matter who wins the world loses. @paninodesu@mastodon.social @thelinuxEXP@mastodon.social I would prefer less war in the world personally, especially when there are already two major ones that are killing millions I dont think we need a third. I am so heartbroken, Nick. I voted like six weeks in advance. I reminded. I called. I cajoled. I educated. I shot the shit talking about the real harm that would happen. But the depths of reactionary, exclusionary politics in the US are apparently very deep indeed. And I don't know how we start to address it. @jezebelkat No idea how to fix that either, it’s not even that people didn’t know better, it’s that they CHOSE to believe what best suited them, no matter the facts or the reality. Such denial is basically irreparable, I think. I’d be surprised if the USA didn’t implode I to multiple countries in the future. I don’t see this rift ever healing :/ Such is the way of empires. I would like it to not happen until well after I, along with my friends and family, am long dead. I don't want to live through the suffering that such an implosion would cause. @thelinuxEXP It's a tragedy. People here have no idea what's coming. The door is open to wider war in Europe. People here will die. It feels like we're two different nations inhabiting the same space and the half that won hates the other half. @thelinuxEXP @thelinuxEXP it's horrible news. And unfortunately the populism virus has already spread to our shores too. And Trump will probably make that even worse. How people can vote for him – or people like him – is beyond my comprehension. @thelinuxEXP Honestly, please save yourself while you still can. I think I'm going insane right now... @thelinuxEXP traveling to Europe and realizing that American politcal literacy was higher than in America blew my fucking mind  @thelinuxEXP well, we have people like Ciotti and it's the demo version of Trump & Co  @thelinuxEXP In an official address to the public a couple of years ago, a Dutch parliamentarian also named "woke" as one of the issues facing our country. It's completely insane how a non-descriptive buzzword basically just meaning anything progressive has dominated a good chunk of Western politics in the past few years.  @erin @thelinuxEXP we've seen the same here in Belgium where the would be prime minister has written a whole book about it and keeps spewing the same nonsense.  @thelinuxEXP Yup. Unfortunately very true, his shit comes floating down. The chief of the facist paramilitary hindu organization RSS, also talked about "cultural marxists", in India 🤦🏽  @benroyce @stooovie @thelinuxEXP Well this seems horribly accurate. "intelligent biological organisms are incompatible with conditions prevailing in technological civilizations and could inevitably lead to the self-destruction of civilization in multiple ways."  @deirdrebeth @stooovie @thelinuxEXP yeah it's not abstract today I feel that sentence like a choking poisonous gas @thelinuxEXP @thelinuxEXP maybe france and the rest of the world shouldnt have relied on democrat hegemony so hard maybe if this was so damn vital maybe then europe shouldve done aomething to counter putin's propaganda machine. @thelinuxEXP Is it possible that too many Progressives in Europe copy-pasted the Progressive discourse in the US, when the problems are not as bad in Europe (for now!)? |
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@thelinuxEXP Word. This is a disaster for the planet as a whole in so many ways.