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Hello dear K-9 users!

You probably got a suggested updated for K-9 to "Thunderbird Beta for Testers".

This is just a metadata issue, which displays a wrong name and icon. The update itself is K-9 in version 8.0. You don't get automatically switched over to Thunderbird.

This will probably be fixed in the next index update.

In other news: Thunderbird for Android is available now on #FDroid (as a new separate app) ;)

48 comments
fedithom

@fdroidorg
Yeah, that was seriously off-putting.
Thanks for the clarification.

Tim Krief

@fdroidorg So K-9 is still a thing? I thought it was replaced by Thunderbird since I was suggested to update it to thunderbird.

Joshix

@timkrief @fdroidorg k-9 now shares a codebase with thunderbird, the built apk has just a different branding

Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

@joshix @timkrief @fdroidorg great, that means I can stay with K-9. Thanks for the clarification.

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@timkrief
At least it is still a thing for a while/for now.
AFAIK, IIRC, it’ll be fully replaced, but there has been some discussions for keeping the original icon and names somewhere in the app settings, in a similar way as it exists with Fedilab icons.

propapanda :verified:

@timkrief

Apparently it was just a bug in the index, where the app store displayed a wrong name. Hitting the update button would have gotten you k9 and not Thunderbird.

@fdroidorg

Fred

@timkrief @fdroidorg Same here. Will they coexist in the long term? If so, in how far do they differ?

Andrew C

@laubblaeser @timkrief @fdroidorg they last committed to keeping the K-9 branding in August, on a now sundowned blog: k9mail.app/2024/08/28/What's-H

"And for all of you who are fans of our little robot dog, the K-9 app and all its associated branding will be maintained alongside Thunderbird for the foreseeable future"

But the very next month, on the new blog: blog.thunderbird.net/2024/09/t

"And yes, K-9 will eventually be phased out"

Bummed out by this. Definitely did not want corpo buyout of my email app

@laubblaeser @timkrief @fdroidorg they last committed to keeping the K-9 branding in August, on a now sundowned blog: k9mail.app/2024/08/28/What's-H

"And for all of you who are fans of our little robot dog, the K-9 app and all its associated branding will be maintained alongside Thunderbird for the foreseeable future"

Fred

@achadwick @timkrief @fdroidorg So it's exactly the same app with no changes except for the branding? If so, then I'll just switch over from #K9Mail to #Thunderbird rather sooner than later to be done with it.

Andrew C

@laubblaeser @timkrief @fdroidorg Seeing how Mozilla's priorities have changed over the past couple of years, I live in vain hope that a Fennec-like situation arises. An independent defanged build some time between when they drop the K-9 branding and when they start shovelling crapware that nobody wants into the product. Perhaps it could be called FIDO en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K9_(Doct

(Shame that maintaining such a build is bloody hard work..)

flobi 🌻

@fdroidorg this is probably not the right place to ask, but: what's the difference? '
the version of K-9 mail mentioned links to thunderbird for Android GitHub, and thunderbird for Android seems to just be rebranded K-9, will K-9 just get discontinued? rebranded? I'm confused xd

If you have any answers that'd be wonderful, but I'll also go look at the repos, etc.

Michiel Zandbelt ⚕️

@fdroidorg hi there, I can only find Thunderbird beta and K9, not an official Thunderbird for Android on F-droid? Do I have to add another repo in F-droid to find the official Thunderbird app?

Johannes Kastl

@fdroidorg Thanks for the clarification. That caused quite some disturbance...

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@fdroidorg the actual upgrade migration to Thunderbird app went great on 2x devices, regardless of this metadata snafu. (let this upgrade happen, install the new TBird app, start it and select import from K-9, verify results, uninstall "beta" K-9 app)

Carlos Solís
@techeun @fdroidorg ...and don't forget to log back in your accounts after the migration to Thunderbird is done. Regenerate app-specific passwords if appropriate.
traecer 🍂🍁

@fdroidorg What trackers are in these packages? The descriptions do not indicate which trackers, if any, are included.

K-9 6.x has NO trackers. But MZLA made it clear during the Thunderbird/K-9 8 beta process they have no commitment to maintaining that status quo. In fact, some of their people were downright hostile to the idea of an app that didn't send tracking data to them, even when it was pointed out the way it was being handled violated the EU's GDPR.

F-Droid

@traecer there are no trackers left on the F-Droid build of Thunderbird.

CryptGoat

@fdroidorg @traecer Nice. One thing I'm curious about: Why can Thunderbird keep its branding while Fennec (Firefox) keeps its own, custom identity?

Balakrishnan Balasubramanian

@fdroidorg > This will probably be fixed in the next index update.
Does this mean it will get fixed on next version update (like 8.1) whenever one is available.
Or will be fixed once the CI job runs with correct metadata?

F-Droid

@balki when the next batch of apps are built, signed and published (= index update) to our servers. So probably in a few days.

markus
@fdroidorg best move is to deinstall Mozilla Corp's ad infested nightmare.
Phillip Plays
It's an e-mail client originally developed by Mozilla.
flere-imsaho

@GoldenStar as you seem to have completely missed numerous announcements from all sides that k-9 mail client is to become the official android thunderbird, i think you don't need to worry, this is something that only affects the k-9 users.

@fdroidorg

Golden Star

@mawhrin @fdroidorg uhh... what? I made a pretty straightforward question

flere-imsaho

@GoldenStar mind, i did not expect somen with an account located at floss dot social to be unaware of the thunderbird mail client, but i guess i'm just too old.

Golden Star

@mawhrin I am quite new to this server, also I don't see a prerequisites page where I need to know every single linux program ever made

Kevin Karhan :verified:

@fdroidorg so will those that got auto-updated to it get that corrected to the regular version of @thunderbird or does one have to manually fix this?

F-Droid

@kkarhan @thunderbird

nobody was autoupdated from K-9 to Thunderbird.
The only (auto)update that happened was K-9 (installed version) to K-9 8.0, but with a wrong display text in F-Droid client.

If you want to migrate to Thunderbird, you will have to install it as new app. But you can import your settings from K-9.

Angela Scholder

@fdroidorg Well, I noticed that the switching between mail accounts was "improved" in the latest updates.....

After all, why not fix something that ain't broken.....
☹️😢😡

Dam H.

@fdroidorg so I take the time to export settings install Thunderbird (not beta) and import my conf. checking it works and remove K9-Mail app

Jorge - vitrubio.net
@fdroidorg :-) I did notice thi yesterday, so... I did migrate to #Thunderbird and it was all smooth.

thak you for the toot
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