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Lykrast

@davidrevoy need to squint a lil bit but could read the bubbles fine (except the one that mumble the size font)

月の兎 :moonrabbit:

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Deevadhand is more in that sweetspot, nice and clear. Readable for me.

mkj

@davidrevoy Thank you for going with a clearly different bold font weight 🙂

Richard Körber

@davidrevoy I like the font, it is easy readable even in 14px. I guess 12px would be fine too if my eyes were younger. 😉​

Just a thought about "ALL CAPS" text in comics. Maybe you know that in German grammar, some words must be capitalized mid-sentence. When I was a child, I was a very big fan of Tintin and Snowy. I learned reading rather early thanks to Hergé's famous comics, and also got a good feeling about German grammar. Todays German editions of Tintin have changed to ALL CAPS now. I think it's sad because if I were learning to read with Tintin today, I would have been unable to learn the correct capitalization of words. IMHO it would be great to keep using caps and small letters, like you do in Pepper & Carrot. Just my two cents. 🙂​

@davidrevoy I like the font, it is easy readable even in 14px. I guess 12px would be fine too if my eyes were younger. 😉​

Just a thought about "ALL CAPS" text in comics. Maybe you know that in German grammar, some words must be capitalized mid-sentence. When I was a child, I was a very big fan of Tintin and Snowy. I learned reading rather early thanks to Hergé's famous comics, and also got a good feeling about German grammar. Todays German editions of Tintin have changed to ALL CAPS now. I think...

David Revoy

@shred Thank you! This font is supposed to be a Small Caps one ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_ca ) and I already differentiated for example the I of the i. So, with a bit more work, I can probably makes the capital a little bit taller, so the start of sentence works better and it might fix the situation in German. Thank you for this feedback, it give me a wider view of possible future problems that might be easier to solve now .

Saverio Brancaccio

@davidrevoy This is really readable to me at all sizes, great work!
A small feedback: it should be more readable if you lightly increase the space between rows.

David Revoy

@saveriobran Thank you, yes, I'll try to increase slightly. 👍

maswan

@davidrevoy The bold is much bolder and is actually visibly different, and the É et al I find clearer in Deevahand. Nice!

David Revoy

@maswan Thank you! Yes, I changed all the font to be a Small Caps one, so I can copy/paste the line of my scenario and it should render well. I could differentiate the I of the i this way. I'll probably makes some real capital a bit more interesting for when I start a sentence.
About the bold, yes! I really like when the emphasis is strong. It makes sens in a comic as it is often just a word or two that are bold this way.

AxelStieglbauer

@davidrevoy Steinig this font in use and comparing it to the last one (Kalam), I can read Kalam better. IMHO there are too many straight vertical lines in Deevadhand (and it is too narrow). Perhaps it is more readable when in cursive and a little bit more space between the characters.

David Revoy

@AxelStieglbauer Hey, I had same feeling with Kalam (that's why I put it in the demo speechbubble, and it had a green checker next to it) but also, I have some troubles (slight dyslexia, dysgraphia too) and what is readable for me is often not something agreed universally.
But sure, a bit more spacing on DeevadHand could help. I dislike when the letter are also touching each other. With JPG compression and downscaling, it feels like a soup sometime. 😆

Amic

@davidrevoy Je retravaillerais le M : sur la petite bulle, je vois HUMBLE ou HUHBLE suivant comment mon œil cligne. Et d’accord avec les commentaires disant d’espacer un peu plus verticalement (et un peu plus peut-être certains passages en gras, par exemple sur VA c’est ok mais pas sur OU et OW).

David Revoy

@amic Merci pour le retour Amic!
Oui, le M a sans doute besoin d'un peu plus de cassant. Une fois réduit avec la compression JPG et le flou que ça provoque, c'est vrai qu'il est difficile a discerner d'un H.

TheEjj

@davidrevoy it’s actually quite legible at all the sizes on my phone! Good font.

A Sweet Gentleman

@davidrevoy It's a very pleasant font to read, I even managed to read the 12px.
It took me longer to get the joke with the cartoon character holding a fork with a hand on it.😄

Elvith Ma'for

@davidrevoy saw it in the feed reader and then checked this post in Tusky. I like it and it's really good readable in all sizes - only the 12px font suffers from the slight blur in the preview in Tusky. But then - comparing blurred and resized images with what you intended is not the goal here.

David Revoy

@elvith Thank you, yes the 12px is really dangerous area. I'll not use it. 14px, maybe for small joke or private joke; rarely. Or when acharacter speaks really low volume or mumble.

Jaded Northman ᛆᛁᛓ

@davidrevoy Huah, that was quick work. I like this font; it's looking clean! (screenshot specs: OP8T, using Moshidon)

David Revoy

@JadedNorthman Thank you! Oh yes, I put a big block of 10h on it. Font is a bit endless work, I'll probably continue on the fly while producing the episode. So many little things I want to improve.
Thank you for the screenshot, it helps to see what's going on. 👍

Patty Kimura

@davidrevoy Prefer deevahand for clarifying the I as i, with the dot. And straightening the slant. I work with elderly and as a person with visual issues: deevahand, hands down. 14 point fine.

David Revoy

@pattykimura Thank you very much! As soon I posted it, I felt a bit bugged with how the jpg compression and scaling sort of connect some letters horizontal. I'll probably need to inject a tiny bit more spacing between letters, just for readability. But that will be minor improvement down the production.

Marco Bresciani

@davidrevoy
Nice. Your Z is way better than the original!
Love the touch of the dot on the I, even if it's uppercase: I can control my grammar nazi OCD. 😁😅

David Revoy

@AAMfP Thank you! I plan to differentiate (slightly) the capital letter, right now the I/i are different, because it works better this way with English for the start of the sentence. on a grammar POV, it should be correct for a Small Caps font.

Slatian

@davidrevoy Happy to report that it also works pretty well in akkoma/pleroma with it’s downscaling to fit inside a 16:9 box. 14px is where readability stops for me.

And thanks for making the font file available :drgn_heart:

John

@davidrevoy Both are pretty readable, but I'd like to note that the curving on the middle of the M for "Deevadhand" in the 14px example was almost completely lost for me on a 1440p monitor so I read that curve as a straight line so I read "Humble" for a moment before correcting from context. Very small thing, but worth noting that you could emphasize that just slightly more so there is more "curve" section to the hump.

I also find the "Deevadhand" italics seem to render a little funny, like a "faux italic" for a font that lacks it. I'm not if that's actually the case here.

Just some thoughts, cool that you're doing all this work!

@davidrevoy Both are pretty readable, but I'd like to note that the curving on the middle of the M for "Deevadhand" in the 14px example was almost completely lost for me on a 1440p monitor so I read that curve as a straight line so I read "Humble" for a moment before correcting from context. Very small thing, but worth noting that you could emphasize that just slightly more so there is more "curve" section to the hump.

David Revoy

@john Thank you for the feedback! Yes, the M is more problematic than what I thought, especially at this size. Thanks for mentioning it, it will be a high priority to fix it.

The Italic variant is a font, but this one is just using some transform filter, and I probably put too much angle in it. A fun fact, the Bold and Italic of Patrick Hand is actually faux bold and italic, generated by Qt probably in Krita text tool. So, the faux italic of PatrickHand is actually better than my italic. 😆

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