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Erik van Straten

@ErikUden : IMHO we urgently need an unambiguous defintition of antisemitism; it is used all the time to justify actions such as in Berlin.

My understanding was that antisemitism led to the WW2 Holocaust. In that context, antisemitism meant hatred (or rage) against each of *all* Jews, purely based on prejudice.

I do not hate *all* Jews, but I've been called antisemitic twice (see infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat for more info).

I'm trying to find an unambiguous definition of antisemitism via this poll: infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat

I appreciate each vote!

#DefinitionOfAntisemitism #antisemitism #Gaza #GazaGenocide #Warcrimes #CrimesAgainstHumanity #CrimesAgainstChildren #Holocaust #HolocaustDenial

12 April at 16:04 | Wall-to-wall | Open on infosec.exchange
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Erik Uden ๐Ÿ‘

@ErikvanStraten I think it would be wrong to define antisemitism simply as an action against Jewish people, even anti-Zionism and even โ€œcriticismโ€ of the Israeli state can be masked antisemitism. This is a tricky topic often leftout and forgotten by many of the pro-Palestinian left.

This is why I am in favor of the Jerusalem Definition of Antisemitism
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusa

It's very academic and nuanced, but I think that's exactly what we need for today to allow legitimate criticism of both Zionism and Israel whilst still recognizing pundits annexing such debate in order to insert antisemitic rhetoric.

@ErikvanStraten I think it would be wrong to define antisemitism simply as an action against Jewish people, even anti-Zionism and even โ€œcriticismโ€ of the Israeli state can be masked antisemitism. This is a tricky topic often leftout and forgotten by many of the pro-Palestinian left.

This is why I am in favor of the Jerusalem Definition of Antisemitism
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusa

12 April at 16:18 | Open on mastodon.de
Erik van Straten

@ErikUden : thanks for your response!

In fact I was just reading jerusalemdeclaration.org/ based on what you wrote, but IMHO it is a too long text for most people to grasp, with the risk of making it ambguous (even if in fact it is not - but I've not read all of it, and will do that at least twice).

The world would benefit from a short definition that cannot be misinterpreted, including by "non-PhD's" with litmited time and who hate reading long texts.

12 April at 16:26 | Open on infosec.exchange
Erik Uden ๐Ÿ‘

@ErikvanStraten the age long problem of making something comprehensible for the common folk without it being subject to misinterpretation...

12 April at 16:51 | Open on mastodon.de
Alon

@ErikvanStraten @ErikUden Make it three times. You are anti-Semitic. Please stop.

To give more detail: a common technique among racists is saying that they don't hate all members of the target minority, only ones who do [something innocuous that the racists choose to hate]. For example, throughout Europe, Islamophobia manifests itself in anti-hijabi discrimination. Anti-Semitism, likewise, demands that the Jews shrink and reduce themselves to make Christians and Muslims feel better.

12 April at 16:20 | Open on mastodon.social
nicholas_saunders

@Alon @ErikvanStraten @ErikUden you beat me to it, alon.

He doesn't hate all Jews, he says.

Well, how many Jews does he hate?

But the bigger point is that no one would get away with such linguistic gymnastics, except with Jews.

13 April at 9:28 | Open on mastodon.social
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