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✨Introducing Loops, a fediverse TikTok platform.

Explore and share short videos on the fediverse using your Pixelfed or Mastodon account.

Available Soon.

loops.video

Follow @loops for early access to the beta and updates.

#loops #pixelfed #pixelfedLoops

98 comments
Cliff

@pixelfed Very interesting! And how cool is it that I was the first follower!

@loops

Ariadne Conill 🐰

@pixelfed @loops will it have the kia boys content i am craving?!?!?!????!!!!?!

DELETED

@schiwagoa sowas Suche ich tatsächlich seit ner Woche schon :D

SchiWaGoA :mastodon:

@donnerwolke
Dann hat sich dies ja somit erledigt. Bissl dauerts wohl noch. Das Fediverse baut sich echt zu einer Parallele zum Mainstream auf. 💛

Sean Tilley

@pixelfed @loops Dansup, can I pleeease play with the Tiktok clone? 🥺

Little1Lost

@pixelfed @loops Feature suggestion it there are tags or "themes" to follow:
a plus symbol behind the tag to follow it fast

Araib

@pixelfed @loops would love to give it a shot! Awaiting beta program

Kay Elúvian

@pixelfed @loops that's great I guess, obv they're your projects so do as you like, but personally I'd love to see Pixelfed out of beta as a higher priority x

𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘶 🛠️🇮🇳

@pixelfed @loops looks promising and could blow up to be poster boy of fediverse.

garry

@pixelfed @loops is the reason to prioritise this (instead of get pixelfed out of beta and into the app stores) because of the possibly impending ban of tiktok in the US?

It's pretty, but is it art?

@pixelfed @loops :ablobfoxbongohyper: :ablobfoxbongohyper: :ablobfoxbongohyper: :ablobfoxbongohyper: :ablobfoxbongohyper: :ablobfoxbongohyper: :ablobfoxbongohyper: :ablobfoxbongoterrified:

Nafeon :verified_solarpunk:

@pixelfed @loops sorry, but you already have missing features and slow development and bugs in pixelfed and you want to start yet another platform? I know a TikTok alternative would be great, but you either start a crowd funding and try to get money so you can pay active development or you should really reconsider doing that step.

dansup

@NafiTheBear @pixelfed @loops Care to explain which missing features?

As for slow development, perhaps you missed the 120+ PRs I merged in the past month (+ 2 releases).

I'm eager to hear your response.

Terrence the Fox

@dansup @NafiTheBear @pixelfed @loops afraid I have to agree. The mobile apps are not released and admin isn’t working in them on the latest releases.

The gif handling is known to be buggy. Hashtags still don’t parse correctly in some instances.
Lack of reliable notifications or email notifications for some things so easy to miss reports etc.

And that’s just off the top of my head immediately without looking at my notes.

It’s difficult to follow your mass PR floods as they aren’t squash committed on GitHub with clear histories and literally end up with just “merge staging” but I can’t argue you do put in a lot of work. You do, however, need to start accepting contributions more readily and invest time in pipelines for validation IMO.

@dansup @NafiTheBear @pixelfed @loops afraid I have to agree. The mobile apps are not released and admin isn’t working in them on the latest releases.

The gif handling is known to be buggy. Hashtags still don’t parse correctly in some instances.
Lack of reliable notifications or email notifications for some things so easy to miss reports etc.

And that’s just off the top of my head immediately without looking at my notes.

It’s difficult to follow your mass PR floods as they aren’t squash committed...

Klaus

@loops i think you should put the remark of @NafiTheBear into perspective, @dansup. Compared to the pace of development of e.g. Meta, the development of @pixelfed is slow. That does NOT mean you're doing anything wrong, though.
I'd rather take that comparison as a compliment: @NafiTheBear is putting you on the same Level as Multi-Billion cooperations.

PhilipKing

@Klaus @loops @NafiTheBear @dansup @pixelfed That’s not true. Development is slow because things don’t get finished and bugs don’t get fixed before something else is added or a new project started.

lutoma :ohai:

@dansup @NafiTheBear I don't personally use Pixelfed, but I've heard the same sentiment echoed by multiple people that do, especially when it comes to long-standing unfixed bugs.

DanieruOtakuBoy

@pixelfed @loops Wow! That was really fast! :ablobcatattention:

wowiamreallyamazed

@pixelfed @loops FlopTropica!1!1! I wonder now, how the community is going to be like without all the heavy TikTok censorship, which in a way defined the platform, federated 4 eva.

ren 🏳️‍🌈 (a they/them)

@pixelfed @loops Not sure I understand. Is this for making videos or watching? Does it just pull the videos people post on, say, Mastodon, and put them in a vertical feed?

joene :ecoan: :bij1_flag: :antifa: 🇵🇸 🕊️

@pixelfed @dansup Are you aware about github.com/Goldfish-Social/Gol? Although development seems to be stalled, maybe you can combine your efforts somehow. Good luck!

Edit: I read StuxOS, so probably @stux is behind it.

pixelfed

@joenepraat @dansup @stux Yes, we're aware, and will be helping #Goldfish build their mobile app!

Deus

@pixelfed Anything that spreads awareness of the Fediverse (in any form) and decentralization, count me in! 🙋‍♂️

And of course, good luck!

Moxxi ❄️

@pixelfed @loops yes! Posting short vertical content on PeerTube isn't ideal. I cannot wait for an option like this and hopefully ditch TikTok!

Jennifer

@pixelfed @loops I never made a TT account but I’d sign up to this in a beat

Ray Of Sunlight

@pixelfed @loops I don't know if this is a good idea considering the damage TikTok has made and how stupid people became because of it

Mohab

@Ray_Of_Sunlight @pixelfed @loops the format is fine. The people behind the algorithm are the problem

If @loops works the same way as @pixelfed and Mastodon (emphasis on what you wanna see, not what the algorithm shoves in your face) then it'll be great

Little1Lost

@Ray_Of_Sunlight @pixelfed @loops the damage got done by algorithms that are designed to make people dumb.
If you look at the chinese TT equivalent you see educational stuff gets pushed A LOT more while here it is the same type of dance mashed with one of a couple of songs.

Short media could be good, but not in the hands of surveillance or capitalists.

But because the person cant choose the next video it is still a lottery and could be worse than other media to stay smort.

@Ray_Of_Sunlight @pixelfed @loops the damage got done by algorithms that are designed to make people dumb.
If you look at the chinese TT equivalent you see educational stuff gets pushed A LOT more while here it is the same type of dance mashed with one of a couple of songs.

Short media could be good, but not in the hands of surveillance or capitalists.

DELETED

@pixelfed @loops I hope registration to servers won't be disabled like in peertube

Scott Starkey ("he" or "they")

@small44 @pixelfed @loops

1. Storing video is expensive!
2. I recently found #CommunityMedia, which has a very reasonable $15 / year plan to host video on PeerTube. communitymedia.video/home

Diabetic Heihachi

@pixelfed @loops
Very cool! I'm pretty sure with this the fedi nearly has all the platform types covered.

WarpinWolf

@pixelfed @loops Ähm, doesn't the evil empire (M$) already use "loops" - I e. do we have an upcoming legal case here?

PhilipKing

@WarpinWolf @pixelfed @loops Yes and there’s also several video websites with the name loops

João Pinheiro

@pixelfed

Not my cup of tea, but a great addition to our beautiful Fediverse. Boosted!

@loops

Dr.Implausible

@pixelfed @loops Really great to see. Looks like there is some interest on #tiktok for an alternative. Looking forward to more. 😎

Dalek ☕🫰:vrc: :PawanPog:

@pixelfed @loops

I love the idea, but how will content discovery work?

In my experience with activitypub servers. Socializing as in actually talking to people is great, but content discovery can be kind of horrid

Sometimes we do want an algorithm or some means of discovering the popular content :nkoThink:

#fedi #loops #pixelfed

marathon

@CupofDalek

Algo's have no place on the Fediverse! If you want that go use the surveillance captialism, social sites! If you can't discover content with hashtags, you in my opinion aren't trying. It's not difficult.

@pixelfed @loops

TheCoolest

@marathon @CupofDalek @pixelfed @loops

Blackbox algos have no place here. Transparent algos can be fine. Curation doesn't always mean surveillance, sometimes it can be handled clientside. There are other techniques.

The thing about TikTok is, one would be mistaken to think its selling point is shortform vertical videos. It's not. Vine failed, YouTube Shorts are unpopular, the format isn't the thing TikTok gets right. What they get right is their algorithm.

ShadeOW

@CupofDalek
In this case, I think an algorithm (not complex just a basic algorithm) is required. Because without algorithm, I think the content discovery will be horrible

Lunar Taiga

@CupofDalek I think subscribing to hashtags would probably be a great way to do discovery.

bbₜᵤₓᵢ

@pixelfed @loops

Ich bin gespannt, nutze #TikTok leider zu oft, eine freie alternative wäre großartig.

I'm curious, unfortunately I use #TikTok too often, a free alternative would be great.

Little1Lost

@be4zad @pixelfed @loops pixelfed is. It gets made by at least part the same guys so it should get open sourced but currently i could not find it

Neblib

@pixelfed @loops always cool to hear new platforms in the fedi. How are you guys tackling the main problems of web video hosting - storage and bandwidth costs, especially during viral peaks?

Elenna :verified_transgender:​

@pixelfed @loops I hope you understand that the killer feature of TikTok isn't "looping short videos", which has been done many times, but the recommendation algorithm

Nici

@pixelfed @BrodieOnLinux @loops would it be possible to follow non fediverse accounts? Without interactions of course.

A sort of bridge to other platforms. I guess I could code that myself too...

Tellio

@pixelfed @loops Looking forward to this space. How different from peertube?

Samantha E Xavia

@pancake They are probably working on Loops faster due to the possible TikTok Ban in the US. Hopefully Loops and the rest of the Fediverse is where people move to.

pancake :radare2: 🌱

@samxavia oh didnt though about the US ban. Kind of makes sense

kivi23

@pixelfed @loops i hope it wont be filled with brainrot.

:a_wide::n64::opera::netscape::8b_i::c_language::_u::sm64_s:
@pixelfed @loops Oh I'm fucking pumped for Loops. If we can get that shit on phones, Fedi will be shaken up by this new replacement.
stefan
@pixelfed @loops I just really hope you will keep in mind the challenges that this might incur on the fediverse in th design of this.

I do generally see two issues which will arise with this. The first obviously being adoption. You cannot really run this from a homeserver, since bandwidth might become a problem fast with video-content (that is if you not have some symetrical line at home)

Nothing you can do about that obviously. But this might lead to these instances only popping up on datacenter-based VPS oder some colocation servers making starting one a bit more difficult since you might need one. Also depending on what hosting you have datalimits might become a problem really fast as well.

The other problem I might see arising is media-caching on some instances. A lot of instances cache remote-media so they to don't have to pull it from remote every time someone looks at it. Though this behaviour will lead to caching of the videos as well I suppose. That might overwhelm the storage of some servers really quickly.
@pixelfed @loops I just really hope you will keep in mind the challenges that this might incur on the fediverse in th design of this.

I do generally see two issues which will arise with this. The first obviously being adoption. You cannot really run this from a homeserver, since bandwidth might become a problem fast with video-content (that is if you not have some symetrical line at home)
Graham Downs

@pixelfed Why "a fediverse TikTok platform?"

Are you using "TikTok" generically? Or will loops actually be affiliated with TikTok in some way?

@loops

Goldmaster

@pixelfed @loops when will the pixelfed app come onto play store? Also scheduling of posts is needed. Can't wait to try loops. I was too late for #Vine but just in time to try this. #BringBackVine

muk

@pixelfed @loops @SheDrivesMobility Ganz bald vlt. eine spannende (Fediverse-)Alternative zu #tiktok ..!?
V.a. mit Blick auf deine Herausforderung mit dem Algorithmus dort?

Priceless Planet

@pixelfed @loops Hoping that it doesn't end up with mindless content with many people trying to be as funny as possible.

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