Gregory's Server
"I suggest that the 50 year computer already exists - in various shapes and flavors - and that all we have to do is find them in attics and restore them. "
https://www.datagubbe.se/30yearcomp/
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Found a neat way to launch cli scripts and not loose their output, by replicating the menu's connection to the opening application! The UX puzzles I've had to solve in flow-based operating systems so far are pretty fun I've had the Crymachina soundtrack on repeat for a few days, I can't get over how good it is, it reminds me of the Z.O.E. soundtracks.  @neauoire Hey Devine, can I steal it and put it on my December Adventure page? Love it! I've been meaning to have the menu rom complete before the month starts, but alas. So this morning I've added arrow controls to help with selecting the right thing from the menu's list, and I've added A button and Enter key to send the selection to Porporo. I think this month will be a lot of this, working on something from within the system, and partly fixing the little friction that I encounter along the way. This month at Hundred Rabbits was pretty much all hands on deck with the release of Wiktopher and the Thousand Rooms translation. Going to kick it off easy for December. > It is called "Scheme 48" because the first version was written in 48 hours in August 1986.
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Trying to resolve conflicts on a pull request on Github, they've modified the editor UI and now it's totally fucked on firefox. The rate at which web projects degrade is total madness. I think 2024 is when I leave gh for good as a treat to myself.   @neauoire in principle you can do the merge on your local repo, including editing the resolves, with your own editor; then push it. Good type 2 fun. @neauoire @lovebyteparty I’ll try the advent of code, although quite scary… maybe c on 9plan :) I've been working from within a flow-based operating system for a few days now. It's beginning to feel a bit familiar. It has been pretty nice to make and unmake communication between programs as they run. I've managed to implement a basic folder navigation with the dropdown rom, which made my life a lot easier  @neauoire One thing I wonder about is how this would work on a tiny screen. 🤔 "In a perfect society, no self-discipline is necessary, because what needs to be done, and what people feel like doing, are one and the same. In a good society, they're close enough that nobody cares if you don't do anything useful."
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 @neauoire "Now I want to be Radagast, the obscure wizard who hangs out with trees." post-Gandalfian! Glad to have Ran Prieur in Seattle.   @neauoire woww Ran Prieur takes me BACK!! Thanks for reminding me of him, wild to see he's still out there. It must've been 15+ years since I read his stuff. Top Listening for 2023 Soft Kill - Dead Kids
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 @neauoire oh man that album from the true faith is such a great soundtrack for a day "Zetta- upon zettajoules of dense black liquid from the depths of the earth, dams breaking in a violence that burns the air" I remember the CanonCat had built-in spreadsheet capabilities, I sometimes want to do math in my files, but I don't want to add a calculator to my text editor. I had this idea earlier that if I route the text editor to the calculator and back, I basically gain calculator capabilities without bloating the editor.
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@neauoire It's really fun following along. What exactly do we see here? Each window a UXN machine, rendered in an SDL-based WM, on... Linux/X11? Just guessing here. Also, is the calculator setup to auto-send all results?  @neauoire Did the CanonCat do something like PipeDream then: https://worldofspectrum.org/z88forever/z88apps.htm#pipedream ? Assembling a rom from within Uxn with the self-hosted assembler, and running that rom. :ouroboros_smile: freedom from unix pipes
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 @neauoire excellent. You given any thoughts to the file system(s) or it just lives on the host same as usual? @neauoire I had a blog-post open in my web-browser up until last night (can't find it now) on the concept of a uxn hypervisor... is that basically what you're doing now? |
@neauoire mmm, but an Amiga a forever computer? They're basically self-destructing: if the caps don't take out the motherboard, the clock battery will.
There's also the small problem of expense. I have, about 30 minutes ago, recently left the World of Commodore show. Working A1200s were going for over $500 there. This is for a machine with a few MB RAM and a processor that runs in the 10s of MHz.
@neauoire I think portability (of both code and data) should still be kept in mind, in part because no hardware lasts forever, and in part to make it easier to scavenge hardware.
Like others have said, an Amiga today is pretty expensive, but I can likely get postmarketOS running on some random Android phone from someone's desk drawer, or plain Alpine on an old PC someone left on the sidewalk.
@neauoire It seems significant to me that the enabler of all the aftermarket hardware upgrades and archive sites is the dedicated community. Who probably will continue to remember it fondly and support it for another 30+ years. And at this point it's completely "organic" too!
Some designed-from-the-top-down intentional attempt at a 50 year computer would have a hard time replicating that.
Argh, I had forgotten that I want an A1200...