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smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

In Q4 the Social Coding Movement will get truly underway.

Key topics:

- What is #SocialCoding?

- Healthy Ecosystem Foundations and #SoftwareGuilds

- Free Software Development Lifecycle (#FSDL)

- #SX, Social experience design (federated app development)

- #Peopleverse (shared vision for the #Fediverse)

We want fedi to flourish and evolve to be much different than corporate #SocialMedia

In this 1st article more background on #social experiences and Peopleverse...

fedi.foundation/2022/09/social

In Q4 the Social Coding Movement will get truly underway.

Key topics:

- What is #SocialCoding?

- Healthy Ecosystem Foundations and #SoftwareGuilds

- Free Software Development Lifecycle (#FSDL)

- #SX, Social experience design (federated app development)

- #Peopleverse (shared vision for the #Fediverse)

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

After having moderated the #SocialHub #ActivityPub community for a couple of years, today I have decided to step down from that.

I will continue to be a tireless #Fediverse advocate, just in slightly different ways than before. It has been my pleasure interacting on the forum, and maybe I'll be back as mod if people's interest and activity picks up again to make it more than what it currently is.

socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/

dansup

@humanetech Thank you for all your tireless contributions!

The fediverse wouldn't be the same without you ❤️

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

📢 Attention (would-be) #Fediverse developers!

Who is interested to implement a #Discourse forum to Fediverse bridge utility?

There's an existing project called #SemApps by @srosset that is ready for use and supports #ActivityPub. It is written in #JavaScript.

For details see #SocialHub at socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/

It would be great if we could stream #forum activity to fedi, as so much interesting #community stuff happens in Discourse forums dispersed all over the place.

#AskFedi #development

📢 Attention (would-be) #Fediverse developers!

Who is interested to implement a #Discourse forum to Fediverse bridge utility?

There's an existing project called #SemApps by @srosset that is ready for use and supports #ActivityPub. It is written in #JavaScript.

For details see #SocialHub at socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

The Tale of Spiral Island.. An analogy for the #Fediverse

fediverse.codeberg.page/2021/0

The Fediverse Diversity Foundation website is just a draft created some time ago. But I intend to make it part of #SocialCoding Movement in the near future.

(Site needs to be further improved then)

dansup

@humanetech 👏 👏 👏

Amazing!

I love this analogy, and the #fediverse is lucky we have people like you who consistently push forward in so many different ways!

Look forward to hearing more about the Fediverse Diversity Foundation!

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

Cool stuff, #Fediverse ...

#SearchHut 🔎

"SearchHut is a curated free software #SearchEngine developed and operated by #SourceHut."

"SearchHut indexes from a curated set of domains." 🤩

"In the future, it will be expanded to support narrowing down your search terms by applicable tags (e.g. #docs #python), filtering for sites with and without #JavaScript, searching specific sites (e.g. @wikipedia.org), and other features." 🚀

searchhut.org/

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3

Loving this 💖

Cool stuff, #Fediverse ...

#SearchHut 🔎

"SearchHut is a curated free software #SearchEngine developed and operated by #SourceHut."

"SearchHut indexes from a curated set of domains." 🤩

"In the future, it will be expanded to support narrowing down your search terms by applicable tags (e.g. #docs #python), filtering for sites with and without #JavaScript, searching specific sites (e.g. @wikipedia.org), and other features." 🚀

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

#Sfconservancy has an important article.. Give Up GitHub: The Time Has Come!

sfconservancy.org/blog/2022/ju

Discussed at HN: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3

> The #FOSS development methodology is #GitHub's product, which they've proprietarized and repackaged with our active (if often unwitting) help

There's work to do. We have an answer and it has the #Fediverse right smack in the middle of it:

🛠️ #ForgeFederation

Read the report just published by @dachary

forgefriends.org/blog/2022/06/

Then hop on the chat 🗣️

#Sfconservancy has an important article.. Give Up GitHub: The Time Has Come!

sfconservancy.org/blog/2022/ju

Discussed at HN: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3

> The #FOSS development methodology is #GitHub's product, which they've proprietarized and repackaged with our active (if often unwitting) help

Matthias Beyer
@humanetech @dachary I think nobody will move off of #github as long as there is no #federation support in any of the #selfhostable alternatives!

As soon as there is, I think people will start moving away. Not many, but some. Federation is a must-have, because otherwise creating accounts just for reporting a bug is just too much of a task for the average user and sometimes even for more "advanced" users. I certainly would be much happier if I could just use my own instance and create a bugreport/issue/etc on some project hosted somewhere else!

Of course, #sourcehut does already provide everything we would need. Also, Email is THE workflow with #git IMO. But I acknowledge that its just not enough for most users and they want some kind of #forge and bling-bling website like github. I do not blame them.
@humanetech @dachary I think nobody will move off of #github as long as there is no #federation support in any of the #selfhostable alternatives!

As soon as there is, I think people will start moving away. Not many, but some. Federation is a must-have, because otherwise creating accounts just for reporting a bug is just too much of a task for the average user and sometimes even for more "advanced"...
smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

Is #Strategy for #FOSS?

Taking a strategic approach to software development projects. Have a vision, outline strategies, create a plan, act on it. Does it happen in FOSS world?

Searching on strategy gives pages full of biz this, commercial that, capitalistic BS.

Would FOSS benefit from being more strategic? There's this concept called #OpenStrategy and it could be adapted, populated with practices that are useful for teams, communities, and the commons.

A #poll to see what you think..

Anonymous poll

Poll

FOSS projects being more strategic is needed
15
34.9%
FOSS projects go as they go, and that's fine
19
44.2%
I am curious. What would be the benefits?
7
16.3%
Just show me the results
2
4.7%
43 people voted.
Voting ended 3 Jul 2022 at 7:32.
Silmathoron ⁂

@humanetech I think all FOSS projects should help lobbying efforts on political bodies (e.g. EU) to get some legislation out about software that's installed by default. That way we could propose any Linux distro to people that get a new computer, any web browser upon first login, etc.
Second thing is to get them to recognize public-interest FLOS software and fund it.

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

#Fediverse..

Much to my delight I can present to you a new #delightful list, created by @lmemsm 🎉

"A curated list of of lightweight, cross-platform #C programs and libraries. All programs are Free, Libre and/or Open Source with source code available. They're lightweight and cross-platform compatible with minimal dependencies, so they should be easy to build from source on most operating systems with a C compiler."

delightful.club/delightful-c-s

Wanna start your own list? Just do it, and ping me!

#Fediverse..

Much to my delight I can present to you a new #delightful list, created by @lmemsm 🎉

"A curated list of of lightweight, cross-platform #C programs and libraries. All programs are Free, Libre and/or Open Source with source code available. They're lightweight and cross-platform compatible with minimal dependencies, so they should be easy to build from source on most operating systems with a C compiler."

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

Just added a #Rust implementation for ActivityPub and ActivityStreams to #delightful #activitypub developer resources.

codeberg.org/fediverse/delight

"A set of Traits and Types that make up the ActivityStreams and ActivityPub specifications."

Made by @asonix

git.asonix.dog/asonix/activity

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

Dear #Fediverse,

Help improve federation between #Lemmy and other projects. You do not have to be a fedi developer. Testing what works and what doesn't in different apps and reporting about it is enough.

Read @nutomic post on #SocialHub forum about how you can help best.

Boosts appreciated.

socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/

Григорий Клюшников

Done already! We've successfully federated Lemmy and Smithereen some months ago.

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

#Fediverse

The #Feneas community forum is going to be shut down today. If you are a member then you can still save your own content.

Go to your Profile page, on the Activity tab select "Download all" and save the zip to your harddrive. You'll find CSV-files with all your own stuff within.

talk.feneas.org

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

The #delightful activitypub curated list for developer resources has some updates.

- A "Frameworks" section was added

- CommonsPub has been updated, since it is now named @bonfire and added to frameworks

- #Bonfire #ActivityPub library has been separately added.

Thanks @mayel for your PR 🙏

codeberg.org/fediverse/delight

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

Via @DavidBlue I found this great #OpenScience project:

manubot.org/

"Manubot is a workflow and set of tools for the next generation of scholarly publishing", based on #markdown and #git no less!

It is queued for inclusion in delightful-open-science ..

codeberg.org/teaserbot-labs/de

Григорий Клюшников

Oh that's nice. I've been secretly waiting for some forum engine to start implementing ActivityPub so I could save some of my sanity when time comes to add discussion boards to Smithereen groups.

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

Hi #fediverse

The #delightful project for curated #FOSS #OpenScience and #OpenData lists is slowly growing, and recently @yarmo gave it a crisp web front-end with delightful.club

Now we need more lists, and I encourage all of you fedizens to maintain one on the topic of your interest.

Some lists are in dire need to be created, like delightful #RSS as @blindscribe made me aware. Anyone up for the challenge?

What is a delightful list:

codeberg.org/teaserbot-labs/de

Boosts appreciated 💎

Hi #fediverse

The #delightful project for curated #FOSS #OpenScience and #OpenData lists is slowly growing, and recently @yarmo gave it a crisp web front-end with delightful.club

Now we need more lists, and I encourage all of you fedizens to maintain one on the topic of your interest.

Some lists are in dire need to be created, like delightful #RSS as @blindscribe made me aware. Anyone up for the challenge?

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

Re: @dansup on another thread:

> I think the reason most core devs don't engage in the socialhub forum is because we communicate more directly (dms, discord, etc) as conversations typically move fast

I can well understand this, esp. since #SocialHub is not efficient in pushing #ActivityPub et al.

But a "move fast and do not share things" approach means missing out on a win-win and hampers/slows #Fediverse evolution.

An improved standards process + active project participation is much needed.

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

@dansup

A problem is that this process hardly exists and no one really reserves the time to make it work.

There's a sort of chicken egg problem in improving the situation.

With no efficient process devs don't find it worthwhile to participate, and no one is available to improve things.

Maybe monetary incentives, salary, bounties for doing community work is needed to stimulate people to help do all the work - and there is a lot to be done - should be considered.

A more formal organization..

Gert V 🇵🇸

@humanetech @dansup There are more precedents of #slowTech, the internet took from 1970 to 1990 to develop, with the unwritten rule of raw consensus and working code. They used RFCs to write evolving standards. But these were mostly academics who were allowed to spend some of their time on creating the internet. There are examples where fundraising helps (temporarily), e.g. Mobilizon. A more formal organization is asking for tragedy.

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

#Fediverse does this happen often to you too?

You found a great post, commented to it, only to find out later that a broad discussion was triggered ... but not on the thread branch you commented on.

So if you didn't bump into it coincidentally you'd be totally unaware of that.

I'd like a Watch Post feature that sends me notification of all activity on the thread.

See also: fediverse.town/t/what-features

Would you like to have a Watch feature?

#Fediverse does this happen often to you too?

You found a great post, commented to it, only to find out later that a broad discussion was triggered ... but not on the thread branch you commented on.

So if you didn't bump into it coincidentally you'd be totally unaware of that.

I'd like a Watch Post feature that sends me notification of all activity on the thread.

Anonymous poll

Poll

Yes, it would be valuable
59
85.5%
No, there's no need
8
11.6%
It's complicated, because ...
1
1.4%
I suggest something even better, namely ...
1
1.4%
69 people voted.
Voting ended 3 Sep 2021 at 14:23.
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tinyrabbit

@humanetech I'd like a thread to be *a single thread* instead of the multi-branch mess it is now.

Dick Smiths Fair Go Supporters

@humanetech
Its a worthy question, thanks for bringing this up HT.

Tracking toots may overburben servers. It might be best to only send a digest after a relatively long period of inactivity, ie. allow people to communicate naturally without telling watchers about it and after triple the average amount of time between messages has passed traffic the server presents that conversation in a collasped form to viewer for expansion.

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smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

Ideas for federating #Lemmy to the #fediverse .. do you have some too? Join the brainstorm at:

lemmy.ml/post/75657

Григорий Клюшников

1. Make Lemmy accept inReplyTo as a single link, not an array. That would already make it possible for me to participate in Lemmy threads from Smithereen.

Григорий Клюшников

Smithereen is actually unique in that it shows Lemmy communities as groups. IMO it would make much more sense for Lemmy to avoid this whole kludge with Announce and set a standard for federated forums. I'm going to have discussion boards in groups at some point.

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