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 11 years into the development of #Conversations_im, I’m still working to enhance its security. Most recently, I’ve added support for XEP-0474: SASL SCRAM Downgrade Protection. To take advantage of our continued commitment to security, make sure to: · Use Conversations rather than a (soon-to-be-abandoned) fork · Install Conversations through a source that provides automatic updates (F-Droid for Android 12+ or Google Play) Continuing a decade-long tradition #Conversations_im is currently available for free on Google Play. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.siacs.conversations Merry Christmas 🎄 Happy Holidays ☃️ and have fun at #38C3
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I installed #Signal and #Conversations_im on a clean install of #GrapheneOS on my Pixel 4a and measured the battery impact. The results are shocking! Both messengers had only one contact: my regular phone. I used my regular phone to send messages to the Pixel 4a (which was not used for anything else over the course of the experiment). I always sent the same message via Signal and #XMPP (mixing up which app went first). In total I sent ~32 messages in intervals of 10mins to a few hours.
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@daniel I wonder if it would be any better if you used the play store version and microG. That's what I'm using on CalyxOS and while my notifications from Signal are less reliable than Conversations, battery usage isn't too bad, though it is worse. Here's my top contenders right now. I'm using the F-Droid version of Conversations. @daniel Signal needs to keep active and send regular pings to keep the WebSocket connection open. This is not a technical requirement of WebSockets, but stems from Signal using the latest advanced cloud technology on their servers which cuts the connection if it doesn't see active payload traffic. @daniel interessant. Ich kämpfe auf meinem #grapheneos auch seit einer Weile mit dem Akkuverbrauch von #signal. Schade, dass in #younohost seit dem Update auf #debian 12 nicht mehr automatisch ein #XMPP Server integriert ist. Das war schon ein sehr bequemer Weg für Laien wie mich, unfallfrei, unkompliziert und günstig einen solchen zu klicken und pflegen. Should #Conversations_im add stun.conversations.im as a fallback for #XMPP servers missing XEP-0215: External Service Discovery? I’ve hesitated to add anything resembling "calling home" (no update checker, no metrics). However, the main goal here wouldn’t be improving A/V call success (though it helps) but making P2P file transfers more reliable. Many servers still lack HTTP Upload, and the refactored Jingle File Transfer would benefit greatly from a fallback STUN server. Anonymous poll
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 @daniel @Codeberg @fdroidorg that's great news (about the reactions)! Will push everyone to upgrade once F-droid gets sorted out 😉️ @daniel  @daniel Sorry for the inconvenience! We did mention here that we haven't changed any of our rate limits in response to the recent outages yet, so we find this kind of weird: https://social.anoxinon.de/@Codeberg/113335363039553812 (Regardless: @fdroidorg, feel free to get in touch with us so that we can work things out!) ~n We are finally going to upgrade our #ejabberd running on conversations.im, tomorrow, Saturday May 25th. Unfortunately we won’t be able to do this without some down times throughout the day. You can visit https://status.conversations.im/ for a simple up/down check or follow this thread for the occasional status update / progress report.
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@daniel in the future please send a message a few days before to all users about planned downtime 😉 Thx. #Conversations_im has just surpassed 250,000 installs on Google Play. 🥳 The official, publicly visible, install badges are handed out for 100k and 500k. Growth has been very linear over the last ten years so stay tuned for the next big milestone in 2034! 😜 Seems like #Cheogram went the route of just pretending they upload the contact list to satisfy Google Play requirements.¹ I get why they are doing this. I've contemplated doing this myself but I’m absolutely not convinced that pretending your app is worse than it is is the right strategy here. Especially because the overwhelming majority of our users are not following us on social media and thus don’t have the context for why we would do this. I hastily threw together a version of #Conversations_im that has no address book integration and doesn’t ask for Contacts permission. No indication from Google that they were in the wrong and hallucinated the whole "uploads contact list" thing. Instead I had to walk the path of least resistance and remove the useful and entirely harmless feature of address book integration. @daniel I have some contacts at Google, I will try to reach them and see if they can help. Being able to do proper message replies (including jumping to the original message) was one of the primary reasons for starting the work on Conversations 3.0 I mentioned before that Conversations 3 will use Dynamic Colors (Material You). Here are two screenshots of how this will look in the chat screen. Just in case you are spending the next couple of days with people who are not on #XMPP yet and have some time on your hands. 😊 Conversations is currently available for free on the Google PlayStore. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.siacs.conversations  Any sufficiently complex JSON protocol will eventually implement features people dislike about XML. #JMAP has namespaces and XPath. I’m told JSON schemas are a thing too. @daniel JSON schemas are exactly as much fun as you expect them to be. #askMeHowIKnow
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@daniel @mattj @prosodyim It's great to hear you're so committed to improving not just your own app, but the XMPP standard as a whole. @daniel @mattj @prosodyim do you plan to integrate Atinspam features into Conversations in the near future? @daniel @mattj @prosodyim that's great! Thanks for continuing to support the best mobile xmpp client out there on any platform! If you were wondering how well #XMPP works on mobile devices: The XMPP-based MoyaApp has 6.5M users in South Afrika 🇿🇦. https://www.businessinsider.co.za/the-moyaapp-has-6m-active-users-and-challenging-whatsapp-2022-8
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> They also found that, at the time, there was a widespread view that “apps steal your money so don’t put apps on your phone.” People did not realise the apps were being updated to make them more efficient, but they just saw it as their data being stolen. They're not half wrong, though. 🤡  |
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@daniel Thanks! That's really impressive the stuff that went into #XMPP to improve usage and security, both by the spec people and those writing servers and cliens! Is this xep depending on using SASL2?