Gregory's Server
 Geographical name conundrum: the narrow strait between Penang island and mainland Peninsular Malaysia Excuse me, since when it bears the name "Penang Strait"?! When I was 10 or something, the Malaysian version of Who Wants to be a Millionaire (WWTBAM) even has asked a question about it. This was c.2000 CE. It's no single strait - in fact one WWTBAM question did mention that there's a "North Channel" (Selat Utara) and "South Channel" (Selat Selatan). Of course - relative to the main island. edited Strait to Channel Finally I took a jump, contacting the National Library of Australia (through their "Ask A Librarian" ASPX page, whoa ASPX - you definitely need to turn on the Internet Explorer mode on Edge)... about using out-of-copyright maps of pre-independence Malaysia (were British protectorates/colonies) in their collection; to improve OSM in parts of Malaysia. It was a "yes" but it's Friday night over here and it was a busy week. Tag abuse or known as mapping for the renderer or by any other words, forcing the map to display the desired features when in reality it is something else - is really rampant. Sigh. In Malaysia, some parts of highway is mapped as "under construction" for some purposely built slip roads (ramps) and was intended to be disused until future related highways will connect to these slip roads. 🤷 The map data is already there (mapped as disused:*= tags), but some other(s) deliberately changed these certain slips roads just to display it on OpenStreetMap.org. Why? Who knows. Whatever this legalese mumbo jumbo is... stay away then. https://assets.planet.com/docs/Planet_ParticipantLicenseAgreement_NICFI.pdf I know it's been ages I've been away from almost all sorts of social media (including the fediverse! blame the cold) but... a relation of a lengthy bus route?! Dear me, I should have mapped one too (the Kuala Lumpur to Alor Setar bus route, ~450km) https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/b-unicycling/diary/401096 This was the time when (diesel) trains were slower than anything on the road. Now if I have to get to Kuala Lumpur... it's definitely electric trains! Choo choooooooooooooo! Got just this day to take a break off serious work IRL... and I saw a seasoned contributor added nearly 4000 bus stops (IT'S CLEARLY AN IMPORT!) that actually... ummm... needed to be discussed with the community first (and should be allowed first in terms of usage...) 🤦 The raw data should be spring-cleaned first rather than AFTER the upload is made 🤦 which simply may or may not include: 1️⃣ duplication with existing data and probably many more. Drag & drop, and simply upload just doesn't cut it... that's why (from past experiences) a discussion is needed. Then only when it gets the greenlight from the community, only SANITISED data e.g. can be dragged and dropped into an editor and uploaded. Microsoft's Bing map builder is somewhat middle of the way approach to Machine Learning (ML) data imports for OpenStreetMap - a la Maproulette too. Probably this tool derives all the map-related ML from Meta (roads), Microsoft themself (buildings) and an unknown source to detect water bodies. You have three options: roads, buildings or water bodies. You'll be taken to a random area, probably closer to your residence if you manually pan the map to do so. Existing AI data will merely act as a guidance layer, showing what unmapped things should be put into the map, so actually you need to trace potential map data rather than, making an import. And yeah, we've got to see how Microsoft's iD instance is like. I thought when KartaView threw up something to do with CORS (it failed to display an intended street level picture which can be displayed in the OSM editors), it probably was the last straw (I often gave up, and had to be happy with what could be displayed in the editors). So just now I tried opening one photo which gave a CORS error on my normal browsing profile... however, opening it on a private browsing window suddenly seemed OK... Ivan Sanchez: "It's a matter of time Meta, Microsoft, Amazon (and TomTom) are happy in their comfort (maps database) bubble until Apple and/or Alphabet would exploit CLDA data without giving back anything" "OpenStreetMap's nemesis was only and actually the (British) Ordnance Survey" There's that too... Overture? More like AI outputs from Microsoft and/or Meta; probably Amazon's own spin and guess what? Splattered all over the map (a la Google Maps, to the point buildings sit on roads - which also happen on Google Maps too) Warning: fictitious "The folks on OpenStreetMap really hate all these AI stuff... hey Linux Foundation, *nudge nudge wink wink* you think Mapzen is all you have?" In fact if I wanted a replacement they're freaking astronomically pricey, and might be available only in Singapore (or probably any Western European countries)... Mikko: hey, you might be interested to grow an OSM community in your country! *some calls for proposal* *so many things happened at work* SORRY MIKKO! I JUST READ YOUR MESSAGE (from weeks ago)! 😰 😭 Mapped about 38km along federal route 4 (yeah, kinda forgotten). Another district ticked. Took about 44 days, because... unexpected increased workload IRL. Took advantage of some collected ground truth data (at night 😅) and also, yeah. Surprise, surprise, Bing StreetSide came to the rescue as well! Yay! OSM tile usage Q3 2022: 30 Philippines 🇵🇭 https://gist.github.com/pnorman/b080985054bbc375b1bad983e68e9c1b  |
@AkuAnakTimur well isn't that something...
I wonder if that's causing any issues on the backend.