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Chris Trottier

If you're interested in running your own single-user instance, follow @darnell

Not only does he run one, he runs multiple—and has learned lots of lessons in the process!

Darnell Clayton :verified:

@atomicpoet 😂 Thanks! My Apple Watch has been vibrating a lot for the past 10 minuets!

Chris Trottier

Thanks, but I don't write for "most people".

I write first for myself and my own enjoyment.

If it benefits anyone else -- bonus!

However, if it bothers you, oh well 🤷‍♂️

Chris Trottier

So I just don't understand why so many newbs like ⬆️ that guy seem so angry.

He's not the first guy like this. So what's going on?

Is it just the sentiment on Twitter right now?

Chris Trottier

5 years ago, some of the Press were hostile towards the idea of the Fediverse.

From their perspective, social networks needed more centralization, not less. It needed more cultural gatekeepers. It needed reputable Blue Check profiles that were privileged by algorithms.

The problem: what happens when a malicious party buys the social networks -- and thus controls the flow of information?

Well, now we know!

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John Wehrle (He, Him)

@atomicpoet Agree completely on gatekeepers being captured by malicious actors. However, I do think the issue of identification in journalism is important. Journalists and news media depend on their credibility. As do we. And that IDing should be fairly idiot-proof. Not sure there is a solution but it would be nice if there was one.

Dr. Quadragon ❌

@atomicpoet centralization is extremely dangerous. It creates a single point of failure. Any systems architect knows that.

The big corps like to pretend that what they do require centralization, and though there are naturally centralized tasks (like search), for the most part, this is simply not true.

There is nothing in publishing that mathematically requires centralization

Chris Trottier

Most of you don't know who I am. And you have every reason to just disregard everything that I say.

However during the past 15 years, my life has been surreal.

This is what happened:

2008-15: Helped build Hootsuite as employee #8
2015-17: Ran a social media agency -- shut it down because I discovered that I hated modern social media
2018-21: Worked with a variety of start-ups, some which were attempting decentralized social media
2021: Sold all my Hootsuite shares, planned to retire (Contd.)

Chris Trottier

Around this time last year, I realized that retirement was going to be boring. What was I going to do? Play badminton all day?

So I called my friend @reiver, and he had a project for me to work on.

Now @reiver has been coding for something like 25 years, and has an interest in open protocols. So I told him about ActivityPub.

After looking at the dystopian landscape that's social, we started talking to others, and decided, "Let's build something!"

Chris Trottier

Something that happened 2 weeks ago:

An executive I know wanted specific Fediverse software for a corporate intranet. I happened to know the guy who made it.

So I said to him, "All right, if you go this way, you have to understand that the Fediverse has its own culture and you have to respect that."

He agreed -- so I set up a meeting.

Right when the meeting started, the dev -- who is a big autistic furry -- walked into the office in his fursuit, and made his presentation. (Contd.)

Chris Trottier

So my big autistic furry dev friend makes his presentation -- absolutely kills it. Pretty much rolls out a compelling case for his software.

But I'm looking at the executive, he's frozen in disbelief.

After the presentation is over, we make our goodbyes.

45 minutes later, I get a call from the executive. And he tells me, "It's cool. I like it. It does everything I need -- but the Fediverse now scares me."

"But you told me that you'd respect the culture," I said (Contd.)

Chris Trottier

If you're here on the Fediverse right now, you're probably experiencing shock.

You're coming to grips with ideas that were previously foreign to you: decentralization, federation, instances, etc.

This is intimidating -- probably even scary.

But while you might feel like a noob (and you are), you're also on the cutting edge of *the* biggest communications revolution in a generation!

Chris Trottier

The first social media revolution started ~20 years ago.

The features may have changed, but the general structure has remained intact since then.

Since Friendster, every social network's value has been contingent upon grabbing as much of a mass of people as possible, and leveraging the network effect.

Why was MySpace, Twitter, Facebook valuable? Because of how many active users were on it.

At least, that was how the first social media model worked.

Dr. Quadragon ❌

@atomicpoet
> You're coming to grips with ideas that were previously foreign to you: decentralization, federation, instances, etc.

More like the ideas you've been safely shielded from by the corporations which somehow found a way to subvert the whole idea of the Internet, turning knowledge into ignorance and ignorance into profit.

Chris Trottier

The biggest mistake web devs ever made was focusing on corporate-owned APIs instead of on new and innovative open protocols.

I don't care how all-encompassing Big Social becomes -- or whether Google or Apple can keep their market valuations ongoing.

Those "critical" APIs can be yoinked at any moment.

However, SMTP and HTTP have now been used for decades. So why not build on the next generation of open protocols?

Chris Trottier

Also, when Twitter yoinked API access from 3rd party developers, that convinced VCs that continuing a bait-and-switch with APIs was lucrative.

That they could fund the next potential monopoly.

The result was competing walled gardens -- and that has hindered the Internet's development, perhaps set it back for decades.

Chris Trottier

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Someone asked me earlier why I have so many Fediverse accounts.

Don't I need just one?

No, as your time goes on here, you'll want more accounts! This is because the Fediverse is bigger than Mastodon—there's lots of Fediverse apps!

To review what I use (and often self-host):

1. Mastodon: you definitely know this one
2. Pixelfed: an image-based app similar to Instagram
3. Pleroma: a super simple microblog app that can be run on the cheap
4. Calckey: pretty, feature rich microblogging app

Chris Trottier

2/

But there's even more apps on the Fediverse:

1. Peertube: a YouTube replacement
2. Bookwyrm: a GoodReads replacement
3. Lenny: a Reddit replacement
4. Hubzilla: an everything-but-the-Kitchen sink app that's has something cool called Zot6 (won't get into that)
5. Drupal (through plug-ins): one of the world's most popular CMS software

This just scratches the surface. The Fediverse is a huge ecosystem of social apps.

And I'm building one too—details coming soon 😉

(Contd.)

2/

But there's even more apps on the Fediverse:

1. Peertube: a YouTube replacement
2. Bookwyrm: a GoodReads replacement
3. Lenny: a Reddit replacement
4. Hubzilla: an everything-but-the-Kitchen sink app that's has something cool called Zot6 (won't get into that)
5. Drupal (through plug-ins): one of the world's most popular CMS software

Chris Trottier

Mastodon v4.0 has a really nifty edit feature!

Here's how to use it.

1. When you click the ellipsis icon (...), you'll see an option for edit
2. After clicking "Edit", you'll be able to adjust the original message in the Compose box. NOTE: this does not delete the original message
3. In your feed, you can see which messages have been edited by a star on the upper right corner next to the time it was sent
4. You can also view logs of edits by clicking the ▼ icon underneath the message.

Chris Trottier

As you all can probably tell from comments, I just used the "edit" feature on the original post to clarify that this feature isn't available to all instances.

So there you go, the edit feature sure is useful 😅

Chris Trottier

A comparison of Fediverse mobile web UIs, all featuring my profile page:

1. Mastodon
2. Calckey
3. Pixelfed
4. Pleroma

Which one's your favourite?

Chris Trottier

Will people talk to you if you join the Fediverse? Does Twitter kill Mastodon when it comes to interactions?

Let's do a comparison. I crossposted the same message to Twitter and Mastodon.

Twitter: 1 like
Mastodon: 112 boosts, 257 likes

Chris Trottier

If you're new to Mastodon (and the Fediverse) you might have a lot of questions:

How many followers do I have on Twitter compared to Mastodon? 8,583 followers on Twitter, 1,324 on Mastodon

Are you more notable on Mastodon than on Twitter? No, I'm more notable on Twitter.

Did you do anything special to make people want to interact with you? No.

Is the difference always consistent? Yes, I always get more interaction on Mastodon -- even on small accounts with small instances.

Chris Trottier

Big difference between Twitter and the Fediverse: on the Fediverse, you don't need to be "important" for people to follow or interact with you.

There are no blue checks.

Famous people aren't given white glove treatment.

Oblomov

@atomicpoet that's probably one of the reasons why they're skeptical about it.

midway
@atomicpoet Of course I don’t think there are mainstream really famous people on the fediverse. It would be interesting to see what happens if there were a ton of really famous people here.
Chris Trottier

Just checked dormant accounts on the Fediverse. Since yesterday, a good many of them have been re-activated.

Glad to have many of you back!

Chris Trottier

1. We're about to see LOTS of new users on Mastodon.

Before that happens, it's time for me to talk about my own journey on the Fediverse -- at this point, I'm a veteran user. 🧵

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Virtue signal 💉💉💉🇺🇸 🇺🇦

@atomicpoet I disagree with most of this, but good luck anyway!

Proliferating a lot of new, low-quality servers would drive ppl away and ruin the fediverse idea.

AFAICT there's no simple way for misc sites (like news) to integrate 'participation' links. Should CNN feature 131 different "Toot this article" icons on each page?

Trademarks/branding is haphazard and just asking for a major phishing scandal. Why do most M. instances feature the same logo??

Chris Were ⁂🐧🌱☕

@atomicpoet A very insightful thread.

Honestly, I'm happy to roll with the punches. Maybe the #Fediverse will change as result of the buy-out, maybe a lot, maybe not much, but part of the fun is finding out how this unusual internet phenomena is going to pan out.

Chris Trottier

I've been working on a fun video project with @reiver, and we got it to federate with ActivityPub.

Specifically, we sent and received status with a remote Pixelfed instance.

I'm really pumped about that.

Beginnings of a new service?

wakest ⁂

@atomicpoet @reiver what sort of thing did you make? any plans with what you will do with it? the successful federation step is a major one

Chris Trottier

The UK government now owns a stake in a sex party start-up.

That orgiastic company's name? Killing Kittens.

Not a joke. This just proves our portion of the multiverse is the most comedic one. cnn.com/2022/06/28/business/ki

Dr. Quadragon ❌

@atomicpoet I feel a sudden urge to move to UK pronto.

Chris Trottier

People say, "The Internet is forever".

This is not true. So much on the Internet has disappeared. I would state further that more has disappeared from the Internet than currently what exists.

This is one reason I wish that a P2P content delivery system was the default: because not only would it deliver information faster, information would depend less on WHERE it is and more on WHAT it is -- thereby creating an avenue for redundancies.

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Kaye

@atomicpoet This is something I stumbled into just a few weeks ago, and not even with video content.
There was this service that let you set up free web forums (EZboards) that was very popular around the turn of the millenium. The web forums were originally preserved on the Internet Archive, but the domain was picked up by a malicious squatter in 2011.
Thanks to a retroactive robots.txt that forbids archiving, those archives are lost now. And that's just HTML and pictures, not something weighty like video.

Doc Edward Morbius ⭕​

@atomicpoet On the creation vs. destruction rates: Total Internet data is still growing AFAIU.

The doubling rate has been about 18 months to 2 years, for decades now (and pre-dating both the Web and Internet).

So unless half of all data is lost within 18--24 months, no, the total would still be growing.

Though average lifespan is likely low. Internet Archive's metric is that the typical webpage on last 50 days until deleted or changed.

Robobostes

@atomicpoet the best argument against 100% P2P hosting is the millions of dead torrents. Ideally you'd have a system where there is multiple local points of centralisation, that can also keep functioning based on direct P2P between users in case the central entity disappears. So basically peertube, but other instances should be able to archive content form other instances as long as it is shared by some user/seeder.

Chris Trottier

Sounds silly, but over the course of two months, running my Pixelfed instance has made my life so much better.

I know music collecting is a silly niche hobby. Some even regard it as obsolete.

But it really improves my well-being to show you all what I'm listening to during any given day.

Chris Trottier

My pet peeve is when journalists refer to Twitter as the Internet because:

1. Regular people rarely use Twitter
2. Technically-inclined people don't prefer Twitter
3. Other social media services, such as Reddit, have as much usage as Twitter
4. Twitter isn't even where most Internet memes are generated

Dear journalists, if you believe Twitter is representative of the Internet, it's because you're stuck in an echo chamber. Get off Twitter. Go use the actual Internet for once.

Pic is relevant.

My pet peeve is when journalists refer to Twitter as the Internet because:

1. Regular people rarely use Twitter
2. Technically-inclined people don't prefer Twitter
3. Other social media services, such as Reddit, have as much usage as Twitter
4. Twitter isn't even where most Internet memes are generated

Christopher Snowhill

@atomicpoet My entire extended family doesn't seem to use the Internet beyond Facebook. Makes me so glad I never had to worry about coming out anywhere else and not Facebook, since it means I never have to come out to the rest of my family. If any of them are clever enough to find me elsewhere, they'll probably understand why, too.

🐧DaveNull🐧 ☣️pResident Evil☣

@atomicpoet They seems to not understand "The Internet" is a network, not a person or Skynet. It doesn't "react" to anything… By the way, "web" and "Internet" are two different things. Social media be it twitter or something else, is just a small part of the web. It is not and can't be "the Internet".

Computer Chronicles Revisited

@atomicpoet I will say, the nicest thing about moving from the birdsite to Mastodon has been the lack of pundits on the latter.

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