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Tendar

The Tucker-Putin interview is only a day in the past and devolves already in an absolute failure for Putin and his lesser minions in the West. I have already made my initial statement that the distorted history lesson of Eastern Europe was an absolute blunder. The attention span of the regular social media screamer from the right (and left) cannot exceed the length of a 3-minute tik tok video. Neither can their average meme-IQ last a text longer than 280 characters.

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Tendar

But it is not only that. As you can see in the reposted text, it is even in Russian social media space where people are rather dismayed about the trajectory of this interview. Some even correctly assess that Putin's obsession of history - or better his distortion of thereof - is rather contrary to the intended goals. Putin is very much trapped in in his deluded world and then makes decisions as before February 24 for a full scale invasion which even many in his circle call ludacris.

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Tendar

Nothing good for Putin and his followers. Putin incessant behaviour in distorting history and reality devolved into an own goal. Claiming that it was Poland and not Hitler who forced WW2 to happen is even for the hardcore follower a tough pill to swallow. Everyone understands that this is only the notion of a madman, and if this kind of argument is used on nowadays Ukraine as Putin did, then anyone can do the math how "sound" Putin's arguments are when it comes to Ukraine.

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Tendar

However, Tucker and Putin achieved something. They created a new meme template which is flooding the social media channels, in other words, the exact opposite what both wanted to achieve. They and especially Tucker in hindsight will realize that his followers react to this far better. But I'm sure that they did not expect to be at the receiving end of this after the interview.

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Dave T-W

@Tendar Do you have some examples of the memes, especially ones from Russia?

Dave T-W

@older @Tendar Interesting point about memes is that when they work well they share an idea that crosses cultural boundaries and languages. In fact a well known meme helps illustrate ideas from a foreign culture. So someone can post a meme about, e.g. Finland, and it will translate.
Strikes me that Russian culture is still very insular and isolated (has been for centuries, which is part of their core problems) and this is reflected in their memes.

Katherine

@Tendar
One thing: It does occur to me that if Tucker said anything that even mildly challenged anything Pootin said, he would have been out of the nearest window soonest. ๐Ÿ˜ฑ ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

Voron

@Tendar unfortunately there are still hundreds of thousands who will swallow it whole, as itโ€™s echoed by other idiot ultra trump right wing local talk radio hosts & small Internet personalities.
Iโ€™m seeing it already.
The cult of Trump is strong, and unfortunately it pretty much walks in lock step with Putin.

m0xEE

@voron
Doesn't look that way to me โ€” even US conservatives make fun of this interview, not of Putin or Tucker Carlson, or the lies in it โ€” the interview itself, they aren't impressed. Kovalchuk is spot-on here โ€” this isn't what the right wing crowd in the US has been expecting to hear.
But that's the beauty of it โ€” authoritarian incompetence, he doesn't trust a good advice even if it comes from his inner circle, he's wallowing in his own paranoia at this point.
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m0xEE

@voron
And this incompetence in what will finish Russia off eventually โ€” his underlings either tell him exactly what he wants to hear or their words don't reach him โ€” those who could tell him that something is wrong are simply not heard anymore. This didn't start yesterday, but it got much worse and became much more obvious now.
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Voron

@m0xee @Tendar U.S. conservatives made fun of trump, made fun of MAGA, still do.
Now they own the congress and trump has the nomination locked up. I wouldnโ€™t put much stock in what conservative pundits say.
I pay attention to the swaths of people and the propaganda, which keeps stunning people, and thatโ€™s even more frightening.

Voron

@m0xee @Tendar Putin & Russia are the ultimatum anti woke anti gay anti white anti feminism banner wavers and thatโ€™s MAGA in a nutshell and they own congress & the gop nominee

elCelio ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

@Tendar Cioรจ #Putin ha detto che la seconda guerra mondiale l'ha scatenata la #Polonia e non #Hitler?

Ciรฒ spiega la sua convinzione di essere stato costretto ad invadere l'#Ucraina.

Tyler Durden

@Tendar
The whole world witnessed putinโ€™s mental decline. Iโ€™m sure many russians started to sweat nervously during this โ€žinterviewโ€. For many fans it was a proof that โ€ždear leaderโ€ is having issues with comprehending reality.

inkyframe

@michalz00 @Tendar
Putin's mental decline and hence a thought that a demented old man stands at the helm of the nuclear power isn't the only striking takeaway for me. As opposed to USA in arguably similar situation with Trump or some would even say Biden there seem to be no functioning weights and balances to the freewheeling craziness of Putin. There is no Senate, House or even Cabinet that can say: "What are you doing? This is nuts!"

Tyler Durden

@inkyframe @Tendar
With all due respect but I wouldn't put Biden in the same category. Not even close. Biden may be old but he still can clearly distinguish between good and evil. And he still has good people around him. Unlike both putin and trump who are completely evil and surrounded by sycophants.

inkyframe

@michalz00 @Tendar
I agree, I think personally Biden is very likeable and approachable person. But there are voices on both sides of the spectrum telling that both Trump and Biden are too old. The difference being of course in my personal view that Trump in contrast to Biden was never smart. But the team of professionals surrounding every POTUS is THE key. A team which Putin as demonstrated by Carlson interview doesn't seem to possess. He's surrounded himself with lackeys.

Sereno Casastorta :deadbirb:

@Tendar Not that anybody asks me, but I agree with your evaluation of this whole propaganda attempt and its outcomes.

Through acquaintances and relatively distant relatives, I am exposed to Q/Alt-Right circles and it's always interesting to see trends they pursue somewhat before mainstream media becomes aware of them.

Sereno Casastorta :deadbirb:

@Tendar

Calrson-Putin interview has _zero_ traction in those circles. While moderates and liberals are meme-ing it to hell, Ukrainians and Poles are righfully enraged, western conspiracy and "conservative" circles act like this didn't happen. They did invest a lot into making a hype out of it and then - wham - like literally nothing happened when the interview was published.

That tells you enough about how successful it was.

millennial falcon

@Tendar these animals. they are pathetic. fit only for slaughter.

Jrmmasto

@Tendar

hoping that they will jump at each other's throats in the kremlin

#ruzzia #ukraine

Paladin :verified: :ak:

@Tendar Sad that a hack did not produce gold. What a complete surprise.

MikeWas

@Tendar Tucker should stay away from windows for a while.

Helianthus

@Tendar

Hahaha, *ucker Carlson is now considered a traitor in the USA ๐š๐ง๐ the ruZZian Federation!

What's next? An "interview" with Kim Jong-Un? ๐Ÿคช

DELETED

@Tendar Uh oh, spaghettio, Tuckski... When Putin is angry with you, then you'd better stay away from windows.

Arena Cops ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆโœŒ

@Tendar Putin is not a visionary, but an aggressive, misled illusionary still stuck in the boots he wore in Dresden, pretending to be listening to zombies & ghosts of Russian imperialism while stuffing his pockets with the stolen riches of the Russian people, become the richest "head of state (/the snake) the world has ever seen.
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Anti-Western orientation of Eurasianism has been weaponized in Putinist Russia to shut down any dissent from the official Kremlin line. Political scientist Anton Shekhovtsov defined ***Dugin's*** version of Neo-Eurasianism as "a form of a fascist ideology centred on the idea of revolutionising the Russian society and building a totalitarian, Russia-dominated Eurasian Empire that would challenge and eventually defeat its eternal adversary represented by the United States and its Atlanticist allies, thus bringing about a new 'golden age' of global political and cultural illiberalism".
..."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasian
#RuleOfLaw #Freedom #Democracy #Community #StandWithUkraine #FreeRussia #SaveLives #ArrestPutin #MotherTucker #TuckerCarlson #JournalismSimulation #MisinfoHoe

@Tendar Putin is not a visionary, but an aggressive, misled illusionary still stuck in the boots he wore in Dresden, pretending to be listening to zombies & ghosts of Russian imperialism while stuffing his pockets with the stolen riches of the Russian people, become the richest "head of state (/the snake) the world has ever seen.
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Anti-Western orientation of Eurasianism has been weaponized in Putinist Russia to shut down any dissent from the official Kremlin line. Political scientist Anton Shekhovtsov...

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