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Tendar

But it is not only that. As you can see in the reposted text, it is even in Russian social media space where people are rather dismayed about the trajectory of this interview. Some even correctly assess that Putin's obsession of history - or better his distortion of thereof - is rather contrary to the intended goals. Putin is very much trapped in in his deluded world and then makes decisions as before February 24 for a full scale invasion which even many in his circle call ludacris.

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Tendar

Nothing good for Putin and his followers. Putin incessant behaviour in distorting history and reality devolved into an own goal. Claiming that it was Poland and not Hitler who forced WW2 to happen is even for the hardcore follower a tough pill to swallow. Everyone understands that this is only the notion of a madman, and if this kind of argument is used on nowadays Ukraine as Putin did, then anyone can do the math how "sound" Putin's arguments are when it comes to Ukraine.

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Tendar

However, Tucker and Putin achieved something. They created a new meme template which is flooding the social media channels, in other words, the exact opposite what both wanted to achieve. They and especially Tucker in hindsight will realize that his followers react to this far better. But I'm sure that they did not expect to be at the receiving end of this after the interview.

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Dave T-W

@Tendar Do you have some examples of the memes, especially ones from Russia?

Dave T-W

@older @Tendar Interesting point about memes is that when they work well they share an idea that crosses cultural boundaries and languages. In fact a well known meme helps illustrate ideas from a foreign culture. So someone can post a meme about, e.g. Finland, and it will translate.
Strikes me that Russian culture is still very insular and isolated (has been for centuries, which is part of their core problems) and this is reflected in their memes.

Katherine

@Tendar
One thing: It does occur to me that if Tucker said anything that even mildly challenged anything Pootin said, he would have been out of the nearest window soonest. 😱 😱

Voron

@Tendar unfortunately there are still hundreds of thousands who will swallow it whole, as it’s echoed by other idiot ultra trump right wing local talk radio hosts & small Internet personalities.
I’m seeing it already.
The cult of Trump is strong, and unfortunately it pretty much walks in lock step with Putin.

m0xEE

@voron
Doesn't look that way to me — even US conservatives make fun of this interview, not of Putin or Tucker Carlson, or the lies in it — the interview itself, they aren't impressed. Kovalchuk is spot-on here — this isn't what the right wing crowd in the US has been expecting to hear.
But that's the beauty of it — authoritarian incompetence, he doesn't trust a good advice even if it comes from his inner circle, he's wallowing in his own paranoia at this point.
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m0xEE

@voron
And this incompetence in what will finish Russia off eventually — his underlings either tell him exactly what he wants to hear or their words don't reach him â€” those who could tell him that something is wrong are simply not heard anymore. This didn't start yesterday, but it got much worse and became much more obvious now.
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Voron

@m0xee @Tendar U.S. conservatives made fun of trump, made fun of MAGA, still do.
Now they own the congress and trump has the nomination locked up. I wouldn’t put much stock in what conservative pundits say.
I pay attention to the swaths of people and the propaganda, which keeps stunning people, and that’s even more frightening.

Voron

@m0xee @Tendar Putin & Russia are the ultimatum anti woke anti gay anti white anti feminism banner wavers and that’s MAGA in a nutshell and they own congress & the gop nominee

elCelio 🇪🇺 🇺🇦

@Tendar Cioè #Putin ha detto che la seconda guerra mondiale l'ha scatenata la #Polonia e non #Hitler?

Ciò spiega la sua convinzione di essere stato costretto ad invadere l'#Ucraina.

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