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Laurens Hof

@pfefferle I think the ecosystem around it, and the awareness that comes with it, needs to grow quite a bit still.

the real power of the plugin starts to unlock once you also have another fedi account with some followers already so that you can boost your wordpress posts to them and you can kickstart some engagement.

That said, Im lucky enough to have that, and once you do that, it is a massive boost to engagement

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Laurens Hof

@pfefferle I think there is a broad awareness among writers at this point that most people do not click on links on social media. So boosting the post as an entire body of text that you can read directly in your fedi client of choice is showing a massive increase in engagement for me, as you sidestep the not-clicking-links problem.

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Laurens Hof

@pfefferle This is all great ofcourse, but I wouldnt underestimate the shift in mindset that this requires. Most writing/blogging/journalism has a very strong implicit mindset of getting people to go to your place to read the content there. Making the best of the plugin turns that around, where your blog is now effectively an archive and 'homebase', and you send it out away from to other people, instead of luring people towards you.

Laurens Hof

@pfefferle oh and a low-prio feature request: id like the ability to not send the header image of a blog into the fediverse. it looks kinda weird to have a random image attached to your fedi post. but now my blog posts dont have header images, which also is a bit of a shame

Mastodon Migration

@laurenshof @pfefferle

Really interesting point. From experience, the posts generated for Mastodon need to be formatted with the idea that it is being sent to the Fediverse. Images are avoided because only want the primary image to show up, need to repeat the title or it doesn't show up. Limit character formatting etc. Really using it as a Fediverse long form posting tool, not a Wordpress blog.

Perhaps the ability to select posts on a post by post basis to either send to the Fediverse or not?

Bill Statler
@Mastodon Migration wrote:

> "...From experience, the posts generated for Mastodon need to be formatted with the idea that it is being sent to the Fediverse. Images are avoided because only want the primary image to show up, need to repeat the title or it doesn't show up. Limit character formatting etc. Really using it as a Fediverse long form posting tool, not a Wordpress blog..."



I suppose this is what most Mastodon users expect, but I think it's backwards. Formatting for the Fediverse does not mean (and should not mean) formatting to match the artificial limitations imposed by Mastodon.

The Fediverse has supported blog-style posts, with text formatting, inline images, and no character limit, since before Mastodon was invented. WordPress + ActivityPub means that Mastodon users will be seeing increasing numbers of such posts. And yes, this means they will need to click the link and go read the original post -- or switch from Mastodon to a different Fediverse platform that supports blog-style formatting.

What should NOT happen is that a WordPress blog must become "not a WordPress blog" in order to be accepted in the Fediverse.
@Mastodon Migration wrote:

> "...From experience, the posts generated for Mastodon need to be formatted with the idea that it is being sent to the Fediverse. Images are avoided because only want the primary image to show up, need to repeat the title or it doesn't show up. Limit character formatting etc. Really using it as a Fediverse long form posting tool, not a Wordpress blog..."

Jon

@laurenshof Agreed, having the full post available directly on the fediverse without clicking has a lot of value. But without a high-profile account to boost, discoverability is very challenging (as for any single-user fediverse instance)

@pfefferle A wordpress-run relay (opt-in for all sites using the plugin) could potentially help here If .social and some of the other big sites picked it up.

Jon

@pfefferle And I have to say, it really is pretty magical when it works! @getfisaright.net's blog has been hosted on wordpress.com since forever, and it was straightforward to enable fediverse integration -- in fact I even plunked down for the paid package to get the custom domain, so your upselling strategy is working 🙂

Here's the post I just did yesterday ... and just edited, so people who boosted it got notifications -- a big deal!

getfisaright.net/2023/12/10/st

@laurenshof

@pfefferle And I have to say, it really is pretty magical when it works! @getfisaright.net's blog has been hosted on wordpress.com since forever, and it was straightforward to enable fediverse integration -- in fact I even plunked down for the paid package to get the custom domain, so your upselling strategy is working 🙂

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