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Matthias Pfefferle

The fediverse has arrived at WordPress.com ❤️

wordpress.com/blog/2023/10/11/

thanks @mattwiebe and #wordpressdotcom and #Automattic and all other contributors!!!

This is amazing!!!

#wordpress #activitypub #fediverse

11 Oct 2023 at 16:05 | Open on mastodon.social
105 comments
depone
Luca Sironi

@pfefferle @mattwiebe this is awesome! lot of people freed !

11 Oct 2023 at 16:13 | Open on sironi.tk
Mx. Eddie R

@pfefferle @mattwiebe
That's a big deal! Congrats to all involved!

11 Oct 2023 at 16:19 | Open on strangeobject.space
Colin Devroe

@pfefferle @mattwiebe please release some stats as sites enable the feature! Congrats on this milestone.

11 Oct 2023 at 16:19 | Open on mastodon.social
Matthias Pfefferle

@cdevroe @mattwiebe we plan to build a NodeInfo endpoint so that you will see the stats on fedidb.org

11 Oct 2023 at 16:27 | Open on mastodon.social
73 million seconds

@mattwiebe wonderful! I had a feeling this was imminent when I saw @pfefferle experimenting with a wp.com blog on his timeline :P

11 Oct 2023 at 16:26 | Open on infosec.exchange
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Jonathan Eggers

@pfefferle I'm glad WordPress has added this as an option for WordPress.com sites. A plugin has been available for self-hosted WordPress installs. I've been running it on my personal site and it works nicely: @jonathan. I have it set up that if someone replies in Mastodon it will show up in a comment on the site and vice-versa.

11 Oct 2023 at 16:39 | Open on mstdn.social
JL Johnson :veri_mast:
jaz 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@pfefferle @mattwiebe Fantastic news! Congrats and thank you for your work getting to this point!

11 Oct 2023 at 16:42 | Open on toot.wales
Sahil 🐧
MiKlo:~/citizen4.eu$
@pfefferle @mattwiebe
Good news, but...
why didn't wordpress.com itself enable federation on this blog's account ? At least with me this entry is not federating....
11 Oct 2023 at 17:08 | Open on soc.citizen4.eu
BeAware :veriweed:

@pfefferle does the latest iteration allow for replies to the comments directly from the blog account to be federated? Or is that still planned for a future version? Either way. This is awesome and I'm super glad it exists.

11 Oct 2023 at 17:10 | Open on social.beaware.live
Dave Clark
crohnenberg

@pfefferle @mattwiebe I def did not expect this, but this is really cool!

11 Oct 2023 at 17:26 | Open on mastodon.social
Ryan Schultz

@pfefferle @mattwiebe Awesome! I’ve been waiting for this! Thanks 😃

11 Oct 2023 at 17:33 | Open on mastodon.social
3dcandy

@pfefferle @mattwiebe still half assed though by auttomatic. Better plugins exist that let you choose an already existing account rather than adding another wordpress account to the millions already out there with an obscure name

11 Oct 2023 at 17:39 | Open on mastodon.social
Matt Wiebe
3dcandy

@mattwiebe @pfefferle only through wordpress.com though since jetpack has had it's functionality reduced so much and you are desperate for money

11 Oct 2023 at 17:49 | Open on mastodon.social
3dcandy

@mattwiebe @pfefferle thanks but no thanks. Keeping it effectively behind a paywall via Jetpack isn't really what I see as in the spirit of the fediverse. As I said better plugins exist

11 Oct 2023 at 17:54 | Open on mastodon.social
ch0ccyra1n :she_her:

cc: @bracken

I guess the issue you were having previously with it being a paid-only feature has been fixed :)

11 Oct 2023 at 17:40 | Open on emeraldsocial.org
das_Ruhrgebiet
Tomáš Znamenáček

@pfefferle @mattwiebe “In addition, replies to your posts from these platforms are automatically turned into comments on your WordPress blog, creating a more interactive and dynamic conversation around your content. Synchronicity for the win!” 🎉

11 Oct 2023 at 17:49 | Open on boskovice.social
Geo Rg

@pfefferle @mattwiebe @Gargron auch für WordPress.com Accounts ohne Premium Tarif? #wordpress

11 Oct 2023 at 17:49 | Open on mastodon.social
KlyX

@pfefferle same thing for "Ghost" would be so good! #ghostcms

11 Oct 2023 at 17:51 | Open on troet.cafe
Andy Piper

@pfefferle @mattwiebe fantastic work, Matthias! I ended up moving up to a paid plan while I was waiting for this to arrive on dotcom (and, I'll stay on that), but I am really excited to see Wordpress join the rest of the #fediverse!

11 Oct 2023 at 17:59 | Open on macaw.social
Paul

@pfefferle @mattwiebe @tobias I found that setting a couple of days ago. It works really well 😀

11 Oct 2023 at 17:59 | Open on social.lightlyseared.online
Gali
Kagami Rosylight 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

@pfefferle @mattwiebe It looks like it's sending `contentMap` as an array while it should be an object: w3.org/TR/activitystreams-voca 👀

11 Oct 2023 at 18:05 | Open on fosstodon.org
lime360
Something beginning with R

@pfefferle @lisamelton @mattwiebe Cool! What I really want to know is if I have a Fediverse profile as part of a WordPress blog, will I ever be able to login to that with 3rd party Mastodon apps etc and post from them? Basically I want to have a single Fediverse presence on my own domain which includes my website posts but also oats from apps etc…

…did any of that make sense…?

11 Oct 2023 at 18:10 | Open on geekdom.social
Matthias Pfefferle

@Rch @lisamelton @mattwiebe it makes totally sense, we talked about that lately and our colleague @alex already build a plugin wordpress.org/plugins/enable-m

11 Oct 2023 at 18:14 | Open on mastodon.social
Theriac

@pfefferle@mastodon.social @mattwiebe@mastodon.social
everytime this has been brought up over the past couple of months I've asked the same question:

What is WP's privacy policy for visitors to content hosted on WP? Last time I checked only WP account holders are explicitly named.

I don't really expect an answer but I do want to give everyone, WP users and non, pause for thought about the implications of accessing content on WP.

11 Oct 2023 at 18:17 | Open on plasmatrap.com
Ivor Hewitt

@pfefferle
@mattwiebe @Gargron oooh might be time to move myself off blogger - which while still working does seem to have been abandoned by Google - I'm forever anticipating that 'oh we killed that' update.

11 Oct 2023 at 18:27 | Open on social.ivor.org
Marc

@pfefferle @mattwiebe Not yet working for me. My site appears when I search for it on Mastodon, but for some reason it requires approval to follow, yet no request is sent. I'm sure it'll be ironed out soon.

11 Oct 2023 at 18:37 | Open on twit.social
Matt Wiebe
Matthias Pfefferle
Marc
Matt Wiebe

@imarc @pfefferle I was able to follow @imarc.co.uk ok from my Mastodon account here, didn't see anything about follow approval

11 Oct 2023 at 19:01 | Open on mastodon.social
Marc

@mattwiebe @pfefferle @imarc.co.uk It's showing 0 followers, are you still following? What happens for me is: it appears to follow, but when I reload, it acts as if I have a request pending.
11 Oct 2023 at 19:12 | Open on twit.social
Matt Wiebe

@imarc @pfefferle Yeah smells like some trouble between twit.social and our servers, I signed up and am waiting for approval to see what's happening

11 Oct 2023 at 19:16 | Open on mastodon.social
Marc

@mattwiebe @pfefferle Interesting, *something* happened when you followed. Thanks for checking.
11 Oct 2023 at 19:26 | Open on twit.social
Rodrigo Ghedin

@pfefferle @mattwiebe awesome! You said that upgrading to a custom domain “not only emphasizes your unique identity but also enhances profile portability and unlocks additional settings and features”. May I ask which “additional settings and features”?

11 Oct 2023 at 18:49 | Open on mastodon.social
Matt Wiebe

@manualdousuario @pfefferle sorry, that's not quite right, we'll have to correct it. Essentially if you move to our Business Plan, you can run the full plugin and access all of its settings

11 Oct 2023 at 18:50 | Open on mastodon.social
Rodrigo Ghedin

@mattwiebe @pfefferle cool! I'm at Business Plan, and curious regarding all of its settings. Is there a doc I can read about?

11 Oct 2023 at 19:31 | Open on mastodon.social
Matt Wiebe

@manualdousuario we don't have any docs, yet, but you can browse the plugin, including its readme, and install it on your site: wordpress.com/plugins/activity

11 Oct 2023 at 20:30 | Open on mastodon.social
Kay Strobach

@pfefferle @mattwiebe @Mastodon is someone working on this for @typo3 as well?

11 Oct 2023 at 18:51 | Open on mastodon.social
butterflyoffire ⏚
Marc Volquardsen
Gerard Cunningham ✒️

@pfefferle @mattwiebe

That's going to need a bit more work before it's of use to average users. Lots of assumptions being made about the level of knowledge of anyone using it. Lots of press button and wonder why nothing happens apart from an occasional incomprehensible error message

11 Oct 2023 at 19:28 | Open on mastodon.ie
Matt Wiebe

@faduda @pfefferle we are very painfully aware, but you have to start somewhere

11 Oct 2023 at 19:30 | Open on mastodon.social
Gerard Cunningham ✒️

@mattwiebe @pfefferle

I'm sure, but it is enormously frustrating as an end user to be offered a product that should have been clearly labeled as beta (or even alpha) without any indication that it isn't going to just plug and play.

UX should be at the start of the process, not an add-on.

11 Oct 2023 at 19:32 | Open on mastodon.ie
Panos Damelos

@pfefferle@mastodon.social @mattwiebe@mastodon.social Great news! Cheers to everyone who worked on this! ​:blobbonelove:​

11 Oct 2023 at 19:36 | Open on firefish.social
kcarruthers
Steven Rosenberg

@pfefferle @mattwiebe I wish they hooked it up for non-paying users.

11 Oct 2023 at 21:17 | Open on gts.passthejoe.net
Mike Whiskey - Fotologbuch

@pfefferle mega gut und danke für deine Arbeit!

11 Oct 2023 at 21:53 | Open on norden.social
Fabian Schaar

@pfefferle @mattwiebe Very cool and many thanks. Does this mean the plugin is out of beta now?

11 Oct 2023 at 21:56 | Open on dizl.de
christine

@pfefferle @mattwiebe Thanks for the great work. The plugin worked perfect even though I am not on WordPress.com 🙌 Just hooked it up today! @christine@christine-seeman.com

11 Oct 2023 at 21:59 | Open on ruby.social
Sean Tilley
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@pfefferle @mattwiebe Great news! Now to start blogging again...

11 Oct 2023 at 23:39 | Open on mstdn.social
pacanukeha❎

@pfefferle @mattwiebe Amazing news, exciting stuff. I imagine there will be isolated tears and garment rending about post replies being displayed as comments but I have no time for that.
#Fediverse #WordPress #ActivityPub #OneProtocolToRuleThemAll #WhatIsTheOrcishWordForProtocol #IBetTolkienWouldHateItHere

12 Oct 2023 at 0:04 | Open on mstdn.ca
PewPewMiau
Woodchaz

@pfefferle @mattwiebe
That's awesome. Anybody used it yet? What if you already have a domain for your blog?

12 Oct 2023 at 2:58 | Open on social.vivaldi.net
Matthias Pfefferle

@Woodchaz @mattwiebe no problem, then it simply works with your custom domain. :)

12 Oct 2023 at 6:17 | Open on mastodon.social
Ben Carlsson

@pfefferle @mattwiebe “ActivityPub is a WordPress plugin that facilitates seamless integration between your blog and a host of federated platforms”

That’s claiming quite a bit of credit 🥲

12 Oct 2023 at 7:02 | Open on hachyderm.io
Darren du Nord

@pfefferle Congratulations! Do #Tumblr next, please!

12 Oct 2023 at 11:28 | Open on c.im
onreact

@pfefferle @mattwiebe Awesome! Now just make it part of the downloadable WordPress version by default as well!

I still miss the early days of blogging when pingbacks used to work!

Just ensure this can't be easily taken advantage of. That's why pingbacks and comments have been disabled by most as of now.

12 Oct 2023 at 11:37 | Open on mas.to
pancake :verified:

@pfefferle @mattwiebe any wordpress instance with this plugin around to test as a reader? Can we search for them somehow?

12 Oct 2023 at 12:10 | Open on infosec.exchange
Matthias Pfefferle

@pancake @mattwiebe you can try my blog, but it's german @notiz.blog or matts @mattwiebe.blog or @alex or @jeremy

If you search for more #wordpress blogs, maybe this is a nice address fedidb.org/software/wordpress

12 Oct 2023 at 12:14 | Open on mastodon.social
D.J. Ramones

@pfefferle @mattwiebe I didn't know this was coming to non-Business sites, so this is amazing. I activated it immediately on my blog.

After testing though, I realized that one of the "fine-grained controls" not available to non-Business sites is the ability to restrict the AP content to just excerpts. This is quite a dealbreaker for me as I'd rather not have my articles being syndicated in full. Am I missing something or is this really not available for configuration? I'll reluctantly disable AP for my site in the meantime.

Perhaps for other bloggers it's not as much of a big deal, so this is still great news. Thanks for working on this. 🍻

@pfefferle @mattwiebe I didn't know this was coming to non-Business sites, so this is amazing. I activated it immediately on my blog.

After testing though, I realized that one of the "fine-grained controls" not available to non-Business sites is the ability to restrict the AP content to just excerpts. This is quite a dealbreaker for me as I'd rather not have my articles being syndicated in full. Am I missing something or is this really not available for configuration? I'll reluctantly disable AP...

12 Oct 2023 at 12:28 | Open on techhub.social
Matthias Pfefferle

@djramones @mattwiebe this is the first version and we are not done yet, I will add your request to the list! :)

12 Oct 2023 at 12:36 | Open on mastodon.social
D.J. Ramones

@pfefferle @mattwiebe oh that's just awesome!! I was ready to accept that Automattic would just paywall that setting 😅

12 Oct 2023 at 12:46 | Open on techhub.social
Matt Wiebe

@djramones @pfefferle you never know for sure but the chance of customizations like that being un-paywalled is pretty small 🤏🏻

12 Oct 2023 at 23:34 | Open on mastodon.social
D.J. Ramones

@mattwiebe yeah I'd understand if this remains a paid feature, but the Business plan requirement is a bit too steep. I think it should be available on the Personal tier too, or better yet as an add-on.

@pfefferle

13 Oct 2023 at 1:27 | Open on techhub.social
Matt Wiebe

@djramones @pfefferle oh, entirely possible that non-Business paid plans will gain more features in the future, we're just getting started

13 Oct 2023 at 2:28 | Open on mastodon.social
ericbac.us
dokter

@pfefferle @mattwiebe I am wondering about how it will work on Wordpress, as far as I know, you cannot just delete the ActivityPub without a proper remove like tootctl self-destruct command to not leave cache on another server and if you did forget, it would do a funky thing especially if you use the same domain.

So I wonder if the Wordpres plug-in already thinks about this problem and if it is safe to install and uninstall the plug-in without any problem.

Thank you in advance for your reply

13 Oct 2023 at 8:33 | Open on mastodon.social
Matthias Pfefferle

@dokter @mattwiebe this is indeed a good point. The plugin currently does not support a complete wipe out. It should be easy doable on WordPress.com but is really tricky on self installed versions.

Can you maybe file a GitHub issue for that?

13 Oct 2023 at 9:30 | Open on mastodon.social
dokter

@pfefferle @mattwiebe Done. I hope in the future release it will implemented.
The only thing that concerns me is not installing the plug-in to my self-hosted WordPress due to this problem.

If in the future I have to move my host will it break my ActivityPub federation, comments on my blog, etc.

Since connection to ActivityPub is good and it will put a new breath to WordPress since the blog will be back as a blog since people can comment and discuss something not just a static site.

13 Oct 2023 at 10:12 | Open on mastodon.social
Michal Špondr

@pfefferle @mattwiebe Thank you for your work!
Is there any running example of Wordpress with ActivityPub plugin enabled so I can test how it works from user point of view?

13 Oct 2023 at 10:14 | Open on spondr.cz
Steffen Voß

@pfefferle @mattwiebe Sehr cool!
Wie folge ich denn jetzt bspw. wordpress.com/blog/ - Unten in der Ecke ist ein Block "Follow" - aber der scheint damit nichts zu tun zu haben.
Gibt es irgendwo eine Übersicht der Blogs von Wordpress.com, denen ich folgen könnte?

13 Oct 2023 at 11:28 | Open on social.tchncs.de
Matthias Pfefferle

@kaffeeringe @mattwiebe das is bissle peinlich, aber an den eigen blogs arbeiten wir noch ;)

13 Oct 2023 at 11:29 | Open on mastodon.social
Steffen Voß

@pfefferle @mattwiebe Ach was. Nicht peinlich. Die Alternative wäre gewesen, das Feature für alle zu verzögern, weil das eigene Blog noch nicht umgestellt ist.
Aber generell kann ich nicht einfach nach @wordpres.com suchen und bekomme dann Blogs angezeigt, denen ich folgen kann, oder?

13 Oct 2023 at 11:32 | Open on social.tchncs.de
Matthias Pfefferle

@kaffeeringe @mattwiebe wenn du das @ weg lässt sollte es klappen. aber nur für die, die eine subdomain benutzen.

13 Oct 2023 at 11:34 | Open on mastodon.social
Steffen Voß

@pfefferle @mattwiebe Noch wird mir da kein Profil angezeigt, aber es haben ja auch noch nicht alle eingeschaltet UND etwas gepostet.

Cool wäre es, wenn es einen Account gebe, der neue Blogs im Fediverse "begrüßt" - also meldet, wenn jemand das Feature anschaltet.

Bei mir läuft es übrigens unter @blog - self-hosted.

13 Oct 2023 at 11:38 | Open on social.tchncs.de
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