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Stampeding Longhorn :budgie:

@cjrando I don't mind that, but what I do mind is them deleting articles.

11 Oct 2023 at 9:13 | Wall-to-wall | Open on social.linux.pizza
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Charles 𝄢 H

@StampedingLonghorn @cjrando

They deleted the list of electroacoustic composers of colour -a metadata list- because it wasn't 'noteworthy'. After demanding I dig up a bunch of research showing it was needed, which they then declared to be "original research" and therefore unsuitable. They took up every spare second I had for several days in a row, then trashed my contribution the moment they had a majority.

The discussion was like a like a check list for white supremacy culture.

(Anyway, other very noteworthy lists they keep are "people born in 1971" who are obviously all musically tied to each other in the way they demanded I prove.)

@StampedingLonghorn @cjrando

They deleted the list of electroacoustic composers of colour -a metadata list- because it wasn't 'noteworthy'. After demanding I dig up a bunch of research showing it was needed, which they then declared to be "original research" and therefore unsuitable. They took up every spare second I had for several days in a row, then trashed my contribution the moment they had a majority.

11 Oct 2023 at 13:57 | Open on post.lurk.org
Pxl Phile
Charles 𝄢 H

@ppxl @StampedingLonghorn @cjrando

For years, I was the odd one out, telling students it was often a good place to start research.

But where, say, the New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians often falls short of its goals, it does, institutionally, wish to work to be better. Wikipedia has given itself over to those who have an ideological drive to make it worse.

Grove has downsides to be sure, but its editors are overseen by people who actually understand the subject and its actually a citable source. I wish it was open access for full text, but its where I'll steer students in future.

@ppxl @StampedingLonghorn @cjrando

For years, I was the odd one out, telling students it was often a good place to start research.

But where, say, the New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians often falls short of its goals, it does, institutionally, wish to work to be better. Wikipedia has given itself over to those who have an ideological drive to make it worse.

11 Oct 2023 at 15:44 | Open on post.lurk.org
aismallard (relocated!)

@StampedingLonghorn @cjrando I don't mean to "but actually", though it is worth noting that the WMF and its governance is totally different from things like deletions which are community-run. There are definitely issues with how notability and such is applied, for sure, but that's unrelated to the giant pot or gold.

11 Oct 2023 at 16:49 | Open on mas.to
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