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For years, I was the odd one out, telling students it was often a good place to start research.

But where, say, the New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians often falls short of its goals, it does, institutionally, wish to work to be better. Wikipedia has given itself over to those who have an ideological drive to make it worse.

Grove has downsides to be sure, but its editors are overseen by people who actually understand the subject and its actually a citable source. I wish it was open access for full text, but its where I'll steer students in future.