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sam henri gold

Ah. It seems the hi-fi is internally powered by FireWire and they dropped firewire accessory support back with the 3G. So I'm gonna have to find a 30 pin adapter that converts the firewire 12V to USB's 5V, then into the 30 pin to lightning, THEN lightning into USB-C.

Standby.

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sam henri gold

@thillsman i am so serious about getting this to work

Tyler Hillsman

@samhenrigold I have no doubt. Your bit commitment levels are famously in the stratosphere.

Григорий Клюшников

sam henri gold, you mean this speaker doesn't plug into the wall but instead draws power from the iPod?! Or is it that it refuses to work unless the connected device accepts charge from it?

sam henri gold

@grishka The 30 pin connector had two flavors, one was backed by FireWire and the other was backed by USB. They had the same connector tip but accessories were either one or the other. This one was backed by FireWire, so it works on most iPods and the original iPhone. Later models won’t talk to FireWire-flavored 30 pin devices.

sam henri gold

@grishka But the speaker pulls from the wall and charges the iPod

Or technically it can pull from six D batteries which is absolutely true and absurd and only runs for an hour or two.

Григорий Клюшников

sam henri gold, TIL. I've always assumed it was USB-only for data + a bunch of other stuff on the remaining pins. Never seen one of these seemingly cursed cables in real life.

sam henri gold

completely fine with it not providing power to the ipod but the fact that data works on that setup and data worked for a split second here is 100% taunting me

sam henri gold

straight up not enjoying my monday evening

A search for "30-pin adapter" in the iPhone's sysdiagnose file.
sam henri gold

will continue troubleshooting tomorrow but my latest attempts have proven fruitless

an apple TV remove connected to a lightning to AUX adapter, an AUX cable is connected from the adapter to the ipod hifi
a magsafe duo dock charging an apple watch plugged into the ipod dock
Григорий Клюшников

sam henri gold, oh btw, try an android phone, would be hilarious if that ends up working somehow

Григорий Клюшников

sam henri gold, very likely! I didn't know about this project, it's really cool. Though it requires a DIY adapter and you aren't this far into your research (yet). With modern phones though, it should be possible to build a better adapter that requires just one USB-C cable and presents itself as a "composite device" consisting of a sound card and a serial port.

sam henri gold

Progress. I determined that there's an issue between the 30 pin adapter and the USB-C adapter, so no data will pass through but power *will* (note the status bar).

I tried on my iPhone X again, with some jailbreak tweaks (SupportTheUnsupported, Mikoto) and it works!

Chris Wu :toucan:

@samhenrigold I’m really wondering if @rafa is following along with this thread.

Vvedge

@samhenrigold I solved it but you’re not going to like how I did it.

It works for sound and charge (no luck with IR remote control, but I was never expecting that to work). But replacing the first party lightning to 30-pin might just do the trick. I have a non-3.5mm version coming from the same company on Amazon (“Belcompany”) I’ll see if I can neaten it up.

Sam Gross

@samhenrigold Scosche and CableJive made these products back in the early iPhone days. I’m sure you could find one on LEMswap or something. radtech.com/products/cablejive

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