Gregory's Server@hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu
The God never, ever says that "I exist", so your saying "even if there were a god" means nothing ?!
I suggest you study modern philosophy, here are some list of books:
https://chevalier-des-mots.blogspot.com/2018/01/modern-felsefeye-yol-haritasi.html
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@hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu  @TomSwirly @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu People who declare "why I am not a Christian" never explain their "RELIGION+LAW" so that people can compare their RELIGION+LAW with the Christians' RELIGION+LAW. Why? @TomSwirly @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu @ChevalierDesMots @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu I suggest fewer stimulants for you. @TomSwirly @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu Read the books I have disclosed to you if you are real human-being. @TomSwirly @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu See you after you read the books. @TomSwirly @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu My stimulants where those books, try them. @ChevalierDesMots @TomSwirly @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu Because we don't have to. Christianity makes many claims we don't accept and that's it. @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu By the way Russell never accepted modern philosophical investigations questioning his language, that is why before he died he asked people to bury him somewhere no one knows where😅 @ChevalierDesMots @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu There is no connection between those statements. @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu Please read them before you say "seem to be mainly mathematics". @ChevalierDesMots @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu I bet you $1 you have never read Russell's Principia Mathematics, let alone understood it. @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu You are free to dream that I didn't read Principia Mathematica😅 @ChevalierDesMots @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu I did mean "read and understand" it, not just let your eyes rove along the lines. Very few people have actually read its three volumes. If you even dipped into it, you would know that it says nothing about religion. @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu It may not say anything about "religion" but when we use our concept of "religion" based on the revealed books, we can see what is described. A way of life, based on certain LAWS we identify it as "RELIGION". @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu You can't imagine how much I paid to buy Principia Mathematica😂 @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu When you start reading them you will be very, very sorry that you haven't started reading them long before..... @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu and the rest of your life you will thank me to remind you the existence of those books. @ChevalierDesMots @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu I'm sorry, but do you not have any conception of how rude and conceited you appear? @TomSwirly @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu Also question your concept of "rude" and "conceited". @ChevalierDesMots @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu You wrote. > and the rest of your life you will thank me to remind you the existence of those books. @TomSwirly @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu Read them then question my sentence😅 @TomSwirly @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu Hope you read those books.😍 @ChevalierDesMots @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu Any recommendation by you is a black mark that will ensure that I, and any other adult on this thread, will never read it. Please go away now. @TomSwirly @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu @TomSwirly @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu I am already away from you, if you stop responding I won't be replying back. @ChevalierDesMots @TomSwirly @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu Rude because you assume what we believe without being told. Conceited because you think you have all the answers. @hugh @TomSwirly @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu @hugh @TomSwirly @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu @ChevalierDesMots @TomSwirly @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu More wild assumptions from someone who's pretty conceptually confused yourself, if you think the only alternative to Christianity is atheism. @hugh @hugh OK let me correct it: @hugh Don't say just "Goodbye" clarify your concept of "Atheist". @hugh When one just say "I am Atheist" in general use of this word doesn't relate it to Christian/or other Religion+Law. If you claim that you are "Atheist Christian" then say so?! @hugh @TomSwirly @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu I have NO answers Mate!! But I know where and how you can discover all the answers to your Conceptual Confusions. @ChevalierDesMots @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu You think "I am" is not synonymous with "I exist"? But you're right, s/he/it/they never said that - or anything else. We have only very fallible humans claiming to know what s/he/it/they said. @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu NO! I think "I am" is equal to "I exist". In the Qur'an the God never declared "I exist". The God -> REAL. But of course existentialists reduced the concept "REAL" to the concept "exist" to save their bewitchment via language. @ChevalierDesMots @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu You say (the) god is real because you believe the Qu'ran, but we do not have to. Nobody does. @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu Did I say "You believe that the God is real"?! No! @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu @ChevalierDesMots @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu What makes you think we haven't studied philosophy? Perhaps it was learning philosophy that led some of us to atheism? @chidi_anagonye @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu Moder Philosophy has nothing to do to led anyone to Atheism or any other Religion+LAW, it is your choice to bese your way of life to Atheist Religion+Law or Christian Religion+Law. @ChevalierDesMots @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu If you want to convince anyone with even a dabbling interest in philosophy, you are going to need to provide a specific text or argument. E.g. Euthyphro for a text, or ontological argument. If you have your own, then by all means, make your argument. @chidi_anagonye @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu @chidi_anagonye @hugh @Ulzana @MiriShuli @Niall @chu |
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Those books seem to be mainly about mathematics. You cite Bertrand Russell. I doubt you have read him on religion.