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Janealogy Scottish Fam Hist

@Wuzzy very novice question here, is this in anyway suitable for mapping the names of crofts that have or are about to disappear and not named on OS maps? On a quick look there is not the detail for that to be done with much accuracy. Or am I missing the point??

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benoitdd

@Janealogy @Wuzzy
I'm not sure what crofts are (farms? piece of land?), and how they can be mapped (as a point or an area?), but for things already gone, there is a specific project called OpenHistoryMap.
As for details, almost everything can be mapped (benches, trees, bins..) so I see no limitation

benoitdd

@Janealogy @Wuzzy
An example of detailled mapping in Scotland: at the max zoom level, even walls and barriers between fields have been mapped. openstreetmap.org/#map=17/58.4

Janealogy Scottish Fam Hist

@benoitdd @Wuzzy croft is essentially a small farm. I'd be looking to map the house really, or what remains of it. I'll check out OpenHistoryMap.

benoitdd

@Janealogy
This is an example how farms are mapped in OSM, it is possible to add the name to the area.
wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ta

The tag historic=croft might be used, but you should discuss it with the local OSM community to find the best way to do it

Colm Donoghue

@Janealogy @Wuzzy I'd say so

I'm not fully sure what a Croft is, is it the whole farm a crofter has and their home, or just the land immediately around their house?

Anyway, assuming it's 2 or more areas of land,(if it's all one connected piece of land it's even easier)
You can draw an outline, and tag it with the Croft name.
When you go to edit the map, there's aerial photography from a few years ago, so you can see land boundaries

Janealogy Scottish Fam Hist

@ColmDonoghue @Wuzzy it's all the land, the house would be a croft house - but that is really what I would be mapping. For boundaries problem is that most are now incorporated into bigger farms so boundaries (if they were ever recorded) would be hard to draw.

Derick Rethans

@Janealogy @Wuzzy Nope, adding locally known data to OpenStreetMap is great, as long as it can be verified on the ground.

I suspect, the crofts have a sign with their name?

Derick Rethans

@Janealogy @Wuzzy As an example, could I show up and ask a local, and they wouldn't know the name?

That way, I'm still be able to verify it.

Don't sweat it though, OSM isn't *that* strict with this rule.

Janealogy Scottish Fam Hist

@derickr @Wuzzy Depends who you speak to! I have experimented with Google Maps but if there is an alternative without a steep learning curve I'd be keen to explore and get others from the area involved.

Derick Rethans

@Janealogy @Wuzzy Personally, I think it would be a great addition.

You can always reach out to other local mappers first, and most of them would be happy to help too: resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?z (Orkney, for examples) — each user profile will have a "Send Message" link.

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