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Tim @toolbear#spicy@ Taylor πŸŒ»πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈβœŠ

@Npars01
Writing vaguely without naming who I mean, but saying enough for the savvy set to figure it out feels off, too. Anyway, for me it isn't really about that individual and I've already stated that the harrassment against them is motivated by racism and fascism.

I'm not going to self-censor, especially about the broad topic of not tolerating bullies on our side (except for the nazi punching carve out), because I'm afraid of a bad-faith backlash (which I am worrying about, but oh well).

I believe in militancy. I believe in self-defense. Other "I really mean this in good faith" incantations.
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Bernie Does It

@toolbear @Npars01 @vaurora Sometimes the only way to fight a Nazi is with violence, but you better be 100% sure they really are a Nazi or else there will be a lot of unnecessary and counterproductive violence.

Valerie Aurora

@BernieDoesIt @toolbear @Npars01 there’s a degree of absolutism in both these posts that would trigger self-reflection in some people. Probably best for both posters to block me, thanks!

Tim @toolbear#spicy@ Taylor πŸŒ»πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈβœŠ

@vaurora
I'm super confused. I don't know if I'm one of the two absolutists. The nobody naming anybody has reached absurd levels and honestly feels like a rhetorical trap at this point 🀨

Band-aid off, I was talking about Ro being a bully to someone I know for a fact didn't deserve it, while Ro is simultaneously doing good work.

I paraphrased Andrea Chalupa, a Ukranian American, who when talking about violent resistance against Nazis, which she supports, and self-defense, which she supports, she gave a LOT of context on why Ukraine was specifically well suited to a militant resistance, why that isn't a universal recipe, and why you get more than you bargain for almost always in a bad way, when you let the attack dogs take control of the revolution. So, Andrea advocates for the more peaceful strategies while acknowledging that even Dr. King questioned his earlier pacifism.

Nuance. Nuance. Nuance. In case it works like Beetlejuice.
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@Npars01

@vaurora
I'm super confused. I don't know if I'm one of the two absolutists. The nobody naming anybody has reached absurd levels and honestly feels like a rhetorical trap at this point 🀨

Band-aid off, I was talking about Ro being a bully to someone I know for a fact didn't deserve it, while Ro is simultaneously doing good work.

Valerie Aurora

@toolbear you literally used the word β€œabsolutely” in your first post. Also β€œ100%”.

I’m not interested in listening to anyone who thinks they can state that anyone is β€œabsolutely” non-racist, especially in a situation absolutely chock full of well-meaning civility-worshipping white people who all believe they are acting out of the purest non-racist intentions and just have some concerns about exactly how this Black guy is going about providing the absolute bare minimum defense for PoC on fedi

Tim @toolbear#spicy@ Taylor πŸŒ»πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈβœŠ

@vaurora
Not falling for the pedantry when "absolutely" is a cliched, overused phrase. That would be good note from a good faith editor, though, so I'll edit the word out.

Oh, and I guess you did mean me. So I'm less confused now at least.

Tim @toolbear#spicy@ Taylor πŸŒ»πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈβœŠ

@vaurora

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at would be good note from a good faith editor, though, so I'll edit the word out.

Oh wait, no. You're trying to use my paraphrased quote of Andrea Chalupa when she absolutely meant absolutely.

I see the games you're playing πŸ‘€

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