Gregory's ServerBUYOUT NEWS: The beleaguered and heavily indebted social network formerly known as "Twitter" is acquired by the X Org Foundation, a 501(c)3 scientific charity
"Fixing Twitter will be easier than finishing Wayland," said a spokesdroid
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   Any mention of Wayland provokes thinking of Weyland-Yutani, and then Oligarchs wishing to live forever or some such. Being stuck in the Musk Universe instead is a bit tedious. @konstantin @davidgerard perhaps. But as far as I know, it is based on an outdated view of the stability and state of the Wayland project, and as such, it is massively unfair to the great people working on getting Wayland in a shape where it can replace X11—which for many cases it is. @gausby @konstantin wayland, the pulseaudio of display management: it fixes all your video problems except ones you have a pile of responses on twitter and bsky are frustrated multi-monitor users @davidgerard @gausby @konstantin Wayland is basically 25% of a display protocol but when you point it out, you get a bunch of reply guys telling you that what you want is undesirable.
XOrg may be a poorly maintained dinosaur but at least it's a complete dinosaur instead of the blueprint of a mammal that omitted many crucial organs like the kidneys. @davidgerard @gausby @konstantin Sometimes I wonder if people who defend Wayland have actually tried to use it? @jookia@social.tchncs.de @davidgerard@circumstances.run @gausby@mastodon.xyz @konstantin@social.headbright.eu I use it (specifically hyprland, or gnome before that), and I don't experience any of the issues people commonly bring up @jookia @davidgerard @gausby @konstantin Not everyone uses your specific hardware, with your specific software installed. So not everyone experiences your issues. @Limitless_screaming @davidgerard @gausby @konstantin I'm just tired of the discrimination  Even more amusing is that Microsoft actually owns the trademark to 'X' in overlapping contexts.  @davidgerard hmm, I wasn't aware that Wayland was made by the same people that made X11, interesting if true. @foreverandaday oh yeah - Høgsberg, Jackson, Stone, they'd just spent five years in the Xorg mines and they weren't happy @foreverandaday X11 basically is on emergency life support only now. Red Hat was the last paying developer and they consider it utterly legacy except XWayland.  @davidgerard @foreverandaday Not much of a marketer, are you? X11R7.7 is STABLE. SOLID. DONE. COMPLETE. @grumpybozo @davidgerard I don't think they were saying X11 is bad, just that it's old and that it's worth it for development teams to flesh out a newer standard so that it's ready to adopt by the time that user's needs differ to the point that the old system doesn't meet them anymore. There's a reason why a lot of distros use X11, just like there's reasons why users would prefer a switch to Wayland in the future.  @davidgerard Will startx still launch the graphial interface for Linux or will it soon open a social media client? |
@davidgerard Heh, last year, I proposed he donate the whole mess to Wikipedia foundation, write off what he could, and walk away.