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rjbandicoot

@publicvoit The hype around #obsidian is justified, and yes, it just uses a folder full of text files, so there's no lock in there.

It also works on mobile and desktop platforms, with multiple options to sync your data and config across them.

I love linux native tools as much as the next person, but for the range of use cases and devices, #emacs will never serve them across the board as well as Obsidian will.

12 Jul 2023 at 6:40 | Wall-to-wall | Open on indieweb.social
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Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:

@rjbandicoot @a_siebel
You can get your MD files, yes. But you don't get the functionality of overviews, add-ons, probably lose version history, ...

This service is not just a MD editor.

Therefore, you'll ignoring your lock in situation.

I've time and I'll read about people losing years of effort in a few years. Trust me. BTDT. ๐Ÿ˜‰

The alternative I was proposing has all the features of Obsidian and MUCH more. So, you'd actually gain tons of stuff as long as you're not afraid of learning. ๐Ÿคท

@rjbandicoot @a_siebel
You can get your MD files, yes. But you don't get the functionality of overviews, add-ons, probably lose version history, ...

This service is not just a MD editor.

Therefore, you'll ignoring your lock in situation.

I've time and I'll read about people losing years of effort in a few years. Trust me. BTDT. ๐Ÿ˜‰

12 Jul 2023 at 8:23 | Open on graz.social
Karl Voit :emacs: :orgmode:

@rjbandicoot @a_siebel Notice, I've never said that Obsidian doesn't provide a good service. OneNote and Evernote did as well. For short-term use, this is perfectly well.

I just have different priorites (long-term aspects) and try to avoid migration cost for other people who don't have the experience I had to learn (through failing myself).

HTH YMMV You've been warned - after all, it's your time and data ๐Ÿ˜œ

Besides: MD is such an awful syntax: karl-voit.at/2017/09/23/orgmod

@rjbandicoot @a_siebel Notice, I've never said that Obsidian doesn't provide a good service. OneNote and Evernote did as well. For short-term use, this is perfectly well.

I just have different priorites (long-term aspects) and try to avoid migration cost for other people who don't have the experience I had to learn (through failing myself).

12 Jul 2023 at 8:26 | Open on graz.social
a_siebel

@publicvoit @rjbandicoot Sorry - I love markdown and won't switch to another format.

Apart from that: All the features I use in Obsidian exist in a similar way either in other Markdown readers OR I can implement them myself. That is why I am absolutely relaxed about potential changes to the Obsidian licence model.

12 Jul 2023 at 8:30 | Open on bildung.social
Martin Johnsson

@a_siebel @publicvoit @rjbandicoot Yeah, this argument is definitely disingenuous. What exactly would I lose if I deleted Obsidian today? What is locked in. Nothing.

14 Jul 2023 at 7:48 | Open on mastodon.social
rjbandicoot

@publicvoit @a_siebel emacs on my iphone? I think you're missing the point ;-) Plus I push all my Obsidian files to git. Cause its all just text. In fact sometimes I even quickly dip back into vim with 'em. Never afraid to learn, & #obsidian is a wonderful combination of features with no draw backs. Love it. Love text, love md (because its text), & I love being able to integrate iOS shortcuts into this gorgeous mix. I also love vim (& can understand why you like emacs)

12 Jul 2023 at 9:44 | Open on indieweb.social
Lyle, a walking haunted house

@publicvoit @rjbandicoot @a_siebel Sure, but #obsidian is much more approachable for average users than #emacs #orgmode. Which isn't to say one is "better" than the other globally. But, better for some use-cases.

And, you're not wrong. If Obsidian were to go away, I *would* loose a lot of cool tooling. But my *data* is safe on my devices.

12 Jul 2023 at 13:21 | Open on toot.community
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