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Ramsey Nasser

i take it all back javascript was a mistake

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Ramsey Nasser

anyway it turns out you cant use quickbooks on linux

ティージェーグレェ

@nasser According to Intuit, some years ago; it was vaguely possible to use Linux as fileshare, sorta.

However, they only had I think two approved distros? Both of which were *terrible*.

Bad: their support, totally clueless w.r.t. to Linux.

Worse: even when I did manage to sort of get their approved distros running, turns out: they didn't implement any sort of file locking sanity checks.

Hellish: Intuit blamed it on Linux running in a VM (as if I would put something that busted into prod without testing first?)

But yeah, the client side app was still Windows only last I checked.

Thankfully: there are other accounting applications, from vendors which haven't lost lawsuits filed by the FTC.

@nasser According to Intuit, some years ago; it was vaguely possible to use Linux as fileshare, sorta.

However, they only had I think two approved distros? Both of which were *terrible*.

Bad: their support, totally clueless w.r.t. to Linux.

Worse: even when I did manage to sort of get their approved distros running, turns out: they didn't implement any sort of file locking sanity checks.

Jeaux

@nasser You should definitely chat with them about THAT!

Manx

@jeaux @nasser Yes, that would be an honorable mission: To take the time and tell every chatbot to _please_ stop chatboting.

Jeaux

@manx Chatbox Frustrator sounds like a noble title indeed.🙌

Manx

@jeaux Love that. 😂 Now I want a new job.

Jeaux

@manx Chief Chatbot Frustrator — you just motivate the other Frustrators to frustrate all day!✨

Manx

@jeaux CCF – the new made up title for my resume.

Jeaux

@manx You are legendary in that role. Everyone knows your work!

Chris [list of emoji]

@nasser

Also, the actual text on the page is ChatGPT-levels of weaselly.

ティージェーグレェ

@nasser CODEF is cool (e.g. wab.com/) but let's be honest: re-implementing Amiga vintage demos in a browser is a terrible waste of resources, better handled by more versatile emulators such as UAE.

Mitsunee | 光音

@nasser this uses 0 javascript if done correctly

𐑝𐑧𐑜𐑭 𐑓𐑘𐑹𐑛 :esperanto:

@mitsunee I still dont want to see somebody blocking the view of the site regardless if it is done with or without javascript😜

Mitsunee | 光音

@vegafjord fair enough, I just really dislike JS getting blamed for everything that's wrong with the web, even tho what's at fault are 80% advertisers and 20% "people" who don't understand users at all. I have a massively underoptimized blog that loads super quickly despite uselessly hydrating the entire text content on the page. It's never JS's fault.

sofia ☮️🏴

@mitsunee @vegafjord @nasser most of the shit JS gets is due to it being enabled by default.

just imagine a web that grew up with adblockers in every browser, and opt-in for cookies and JS…

Mitsunee | 光音

@sofia there wouldn't be a reason to block JS if it wasn't for advertisers and other such nonsense

sofia ☮️🏴

@mitsunee i disagree. just because i visit your website does not mean i wanna run whatever code you have there. i think this would be a good disincentive to use JS for no good reason, which is like 95% of those websites that start of blank before you enable js. a static-ass website, but they gotta use some framework shit.

Mitsunee | 光音

@sofia if you don't wanna run my code then don't visit the site? My sites aren't blank without JS either, that problem got solved literally years ago and was merely caused by people overusing ui libraries without a framework that let's them work at scale. In fact it was never a problem for any of *my* sites. Fuck off with your pointless accusations.

sofia ☮️🏴

@mitsunee i really didn't mean to accuse you in particulat of making shitty websites, sorry if that's how it came across. it was meant to be a generic "you". the blank website phenomenon is very much still a thing, and it's super annoying, and yeah, framework fans promised me that would go away years ago…

running arbitrary code just seems like something that should have special permissions in a system that is stilll primarily used for documents. just like, say, camera access.

sofia ☮️🏴

@mitsunee i guess my feelinmg about frameworks are party motivated by me trying to and failing to understand React (i guess it has something to do with automatically synchronizing data and UI 🤷). and when the main notable effect of this arcane magic is breaking static websites then that's just a bit… disappointing…

Thiago Figueiró

@mitsunee @nasser this reminds me of the oxymoronic subversion slogan “cvs done right”. There’s no doing this aberration correctly.

Mitsunee | 光音

@thiagocsf if you are doing any sort of animation with JS you are doing it very very very wrong tho. JS is actually the thing that helps you get rid of this abomination by offering the close button...

Sheogorath 🦊

@nasser if you prefer that, they can implement this in CSS animations :)

Sceptique

@nasser nothing you cant fix by disabling all javascript by default.

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