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Misty

New blog post! I'm always seeing "first CD-ROM game" citations that are totally inconsistent, or which cite games like Myst, so I decided to put together a timeline of all the candidates - and ended up calling into question the point of "firsts" lists in the first place.

cdrom.ca/games/2023/06/29/firs

40 comments
Misty

@nex3 Thanks! Was a fun one to research, I ended up correcting myself on a few of these before I was done

deKay

@misty Codemasters also released CD based games for the Spectrum and C64 (and made but didn’t release for the Amstrad) back in 1989. spectrumforeveryone.com/featur

Misty

@deKay Wow, interesting! So not really CD-ROM, but cassette style data on CD audio tracks

deKay

@misty yeah, sort of. It never took off. Having to load the CD loader from tape first probably didn’t help.

Richard Troupe

@deKay @misty I was just about to reply with this!

This was a great list by the way.

Damiano Gerli

@misty the very first thing a historian discovers is the pointlessness of proclaiming something as "the very first thing".

... Wait.

Misty

@damianogerli …aaaaand I missed your joke. Nicely played.

YHANCI~1.TXT

@misty oh I had no idea there was a CD-ROM version of The Manhole. Neither did I know that Haruhiko Shono's Alice was so significant in terms of chronology (mostly because I never fully paid attention to its release year)

Misty

@yhancik I bet not many people actually *played* the black and white CD Manhole since it was so early. Seems like the CD "masterpiece edition" is a lot more common.

Over here I think the English version of Alice is a lot better known, and that didn't come out until 1994.

Rob Isaac

@misty Honourable mention: Cosmic Osmo and the Worlds Beyond Mackerel.

Jay Stephens

@misty yeah the close you look at anything like this the more you realise categories have blurry edges!

R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

@misty

Dang, anyone who says that #Myst was the first CDROM game doesn't even know #Cyan's history.

#TheManhole

@48kRAM

Edit: embarrasing typo. #SmartphonesAreDUMB

xanatax 🐰

@misty … my personal first CDROM game was, “Cosmic Osmo and the Worlds Beyond the Mackerel” … also Cyan. The soundtrack absolutely slaps for a videogame of that era, because “CD-ROM technology” … it’s just a real band? 🥰

🤣 I didn’t know “The Manhole” got a CD, I think I only saw that one in Floppy edition.

Grady Haynes

@misty I enjoyed this. Calling No-Ri-Ko the first CD-ROM adventure made me think about it in a different way, hadn’t realized there was that aspect to it.

Ben A L Jemmett

@misty Nice post! And I definitely agree with your sentiments about crowning 'firsts' - especially since my first (... sorry) thought when I got to the Beethoven entry was that things like the Grolier Encyclopedia (1985/6) and Microsoft Bookshelf (1987) would be strong contenders for that title too, except were presumably well outside a consumer's reach at that point.

(Edit: I was thinking of the wrong Grolier disc apparently, it seems the KnowledgeDisc was a laserdisc. Cool but irrelevant!)

Misty

@baljemmett Haha, yeah! You can tell I had a very consumer focus here; Microsoft Bookshelf's a real oddity. Not sure consumer-grade CD-ROM drives were even around yet in 1987?

Nicola Elle 🏳️‍⚧️

@misty And how many trivia geeks took one look at this screenshot and went, "Um, that's incorrect..." (Was only 10 years; Beethoven's 8th, while written in 1812, wasn't released until 1814.)

R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

@misty

That's some lovely Floyd-Steinburg.

The whole time I was "stuck" in monochrome-land (1989-1994), I was dying for some color in my world.

Now that I've had all the 24bpp I can stand for the past 29 years, I really, *really* miss monochrome. ^___^

R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

@Tinrocket

Ah!! Even better!

Are you sure it's Atkinson, though? The pattern looks very FS to me.

John Balestrieri

@RL_Dane definitely Atkinson. Recognizable pattern; esp. in left cheek. They probably used the software that came with the Apple scanner, it used Atkinson dithering.

R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

@Tinrocket

Ok cool.

I really wish Atkinson got more credit for his genius. He pushed the hardware at least five years ahead of its time.

John Balestrieri

@RL_Dane Yeah; it's truly amazing what he accomplished!

R. L. Dane :debian: :openbsd:

@Tinrocket

I remember seeing 386es around 1993 with much slower graphics than what the Lisa had with such a hobbled 68k in 1983. :D

I'm not an Apple fan anymore, but I get pretty ticked when people say that they just ripped off the Xerox PARC. They took a pretty rough idea and made it work well enough on very limited hardware.
The Alto didn't have rounded rects or window regions (partial refresh)

Renkon

@misty Great write-up as always! The Manhole looks charming as heck, makes me wanna make something like that for the upcoming Decker jam 🤔 Also lol Fighting Street 😅

jmac

@misty @jdyer Yeah, like… a younger friend was telling me the other day that Metroid was in Fall Out Boy’s “We didn’t Start the Fire” remix because that game had the first ever female PC, and I’m like… I’m not sure whose life it would improve if I gave them a different, also-incorrect answer, so I didn’t

jlapoutre

@misty wow, I think I’ve seen this “game” from the screenshot, can’t remember where though. It was a bit, boring?

Misty

@Cdespinosa Hmm, that raises an interesting question. Was the program itself actually on the CD? Or was it floppies bundled with a music-only CD?

vaguerant

@misty I don't think Street Fighter on CD-ROM is quite as weird as it seems. Arcade games would routinely be extremely large by home console stds, since they weren't being mass-produced on the same scale. Buying those ROMs at the home release scale would have been prohibitively expensive.

Street Fighter in arcades was over 4 MB of ROMs. In 1988, it was inconceivable to do a home release of that size; only a handful of late SNES games in the mid-'90s were that big, after prices had come down.

Terence Eden

@misty that's such a cool post. Would you also consider LaserDisc games? Or are you a CD purist?

Misty

@Edent I feel like laserdisc games are kind of their own thing. Definitely interesting! But worthy of their own post instead of getting added to this.

Terence Eden

@misty
Fair enough. I will start investigating 😁

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