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@mozilla Nice to see Mozilla join the fediverse. I am a bit concerned about what "if it's debatable it's gone" means Does it mean that debate is forbidden or that anything in the grey area of the other rules is forbidden? If it's the former, that is kinda killing the social part of social media. 8 comments
@geekynerdynerd I think we can just err on the side of you don’t need to “debate” people about obesity on this instance. @dylanshivak So Mozilla will just tolerate medical misinformation then? I can't see how that will end well. Like I said, these rules are clearly not well thought out because they are contradictory. The people I am referring to see even acknowledging the increased risk of cardiovascular disease and diabetes as a form of hate speech and harassment. The only way to avoid rule conflicts would be to outright ban all discussion on medical issues regardless of content. I don't see that ending well. @dylanshivak the scare quotes were unnecessary. I am not in favor of harassment and bullying of anybody. I'm just concerned as to if Mozilla has really thought about how this will work. Banning harassment is definitely a good thing. I'm just concerned that legitimate debate is also gonna be forbidden. I'd hate to see a growth in platforms where the only opinion that is tolerated is "Yes I agree. Oh absolutely." and no real discussion can take place. @geekynerdynerd I just don’t understand (why) it’s necessary to debate topics like this? It doesn’t sound like this is meant to be the be-all and end-all of social media, but a tolerant space that has heavy moderation. A few topics might be off limits here - so what? Just live and let live (ie. mind your own business). @dylanshivak Honestly, if this was being made by anybody other than Mozilla i'd simply ignore it . But Mozilla has influence. Outside of platforms that are committing seppeku like Twitter, heavy moderation has been spreading like wildfire... The internet as a whole is becoming more split between places trying to replicate Disney land and shit holes like 4chan. I don't like either option, and I'm concerned about this dichotomy potentially spreading if more groups are inspired by Mozilla. @geekynerdynerd I guess we just agree to disagree. I think a heavily moderated space sounds nice and somewhere that I would like to be. It’s certainly the reason I left Twitter. Not everywhere can be everything for everyone, and that’s okay. @dylanshivak I'll admit I'm just a bit sensitive about the topic currently. I left Twitter because of numerous reasons, but I will agree that after Musk took over they went too far in taking a more anything goes approach to moderation. There's certainly nothing wrong with there being places that are heavily moderated and I am glad that people like you who prefer those have options. I just prefer a middle ground to moderation, and it feels like places like that are dying out slowly everywhere. |
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@mozilla I will definitely be watching with interest though. Hopefully it works out. We could definitely do with more platforms that are safer for people of different backgrounds, I just am a bit concerned that Mozilla might not have considered the possibility that these rules aren't always gonna be mutually compatible in the eyes of people from different walks of life.