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Dylan Shivak

@geekynerdynerd I think we can just err on the side of you don’t need to “debate” people about obesity on this instance.

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geekynerdynerd

@dylanshivak So Mozilla will just tolerate medical misinformation then? I can't see how that will end well. Like I said, these rules are clearly not well thought out because they are contradictory. The people I am referring to see even acknowledging the increased risk of cardiovascular disease and diabetes as a form of hate speech and harassment.

The only way to avoid rule conflicts would be to outright ban all discussion on medical issues regardless of content. I don't see that ending well.

geekynerdynerd

@dylanshivak the scare quotes were unnecessary. I am not in favor of harassment and bullying of anybody. I'm just concerned as to if Mozilla has really thought about how this will work. Banning harassment is definitely a good thing. I'm just concerned that legitimate debate is also gonna be forbidden. I'd hate to see a growth in platforms where the only opinion that is tolerated is "Yes I agree. Oh absolutely." and no real discussion can take place.

Dylan Shivak

@geekynerdynerd I just don’t understand (why) it’s necessary to debate topics like this? It doesn’t sound like this is meant to be the be-all and end-all of social media, but a tolerant space that has heavy moderation. A few topics might be off limits here - so what?

Just live and let live (ie. mind your own business).

geekynerdynerd

@dylanshivak Honestly, if this was being made by anybody other than Mozilla i'd simply ignore it . But Mozilla has influence. Outside of platforms that are committing seppeku like Twitter, heavy moderation has been spreading like wildfire... The internet as a whole is becoming more split between places trying to replicate Disney land and shit holes like 4chan.

I don't like either option, and I'm concerned about this dichotomy potentially spreading if more groups are inspired by Mozilla.

Dylan Shivak

@geekynerdynerd I guess we just agree to disagree. I think a heavily moderated space sounds nice and somewhere that I would like to be. It’s certainly the reason I left Twitter.

Not everywhere can be everything for everyone, and that’s okay.

geekynerdynerd

@dylanshivak I'll admit I'm just a bit sensitive about the topic currently. I left Twitter because of numerous reasons, but I will agree that after Musk took over they went too far in taking a more anything goes approach to moderation.

There's certainly nothing wrong with there being places that are heavily moderated and I am glad that people like you who prefer those have options. I just prefer a middle ground to moderation, and it feels like places like that are dying out slowly everywhere.

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