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myrmepropagandist

The #MTA is off twitter! If you live in NYC or use the service

(including metroNorth, CT friends!)

Please contact the MTA and let them know they would be more than welcome on the fediverse. They could probably have their own instance "@mta.info" just the way it ought to be.

I hope they come here. #nyc #transit #metronorth #lirr

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Jae Bloom

@futurebird Stuff like this makes me so incredibly sad. As I used to use things like this for status updates, etc.

myrmepropagandist

@jae

It would be a better less cluttered service with their own instance here.

hammancheez

@futurebird i mean if any org knows about unreliable service amirite

tenet

@hammancheez @futurebird I see people complain about NYC and Chicago and Seattle transit and I'm down here in the DFW Metroplex waiting on the hourly bus that didn't arrive twenty minutes ago.

NYSloth

@futurebird Thanksβ€”I just contacted them with the suggestion. Here’s the MTA contact info page:

new.mta.info/contact-us

NYSloth

@futurebird
Here’s some boilerplate if anyone wants to use:
Now that Twitter has become fundamentally unreliable and the MTA no longer uses it for service alerts, please consider joining the Fediverse (e.g. Mastodon). Doing so would let you reach people on many related platforms. You could even set up your own server. I hope you will explore this possibility, as vital public information should not be controlled at the whim of a private business owner. Thank you for considering.

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@NYSloth @futurebird They can follow the model of @ai6yr who has brought public safety services to life here on his server.

AI6YR

@franktaber @NYSloth @futurebird I could probably get that on here. I have @sfbart_bot and @wmata_bot going here

AI6YR

@franktaber @NYSloth @futurebird @sfbart_bot @wmata_bot Yeah, that might be do-able... They have a spot I can snag the notices. I'll have to see what it looks like.

AI6YR

@franktaber @NYSloth @futurebird @sfbart_bot @wmata_bot I'm unsure how crazy it will be (lots of service notices up there!) -- will play around with it... Eventually it will go up at @nymta_bot

Knut MorΓ₯

@futurebird
Feels like a pretty big change when public info accounts move out! Sent them a smiley face on whatsapp in support. I'd love for a mastodon presence but tbh my favourite would be for RSS to be the standard for broadcasted status updates.

Knut MorΓ₯

@krishean @futurebird
Thanks, I didn't, useful!
Finally I can keep tabs on me :)

Krishean Draconis

@kdund @futurebird most fediverse instances support adding ".rss" after the account id for a live feed

Knut MorΓ₯

@krishean my word, it works for my homepage too, I'm awash with self-monitoring options :D

Serge from Babka

@futurebird

As a former NYC resident (and New Yorker for life), while a MTA Fediverse instance would be a wonderful thing, I suspect some government agencies in the US are waiting on the Supreme Court decision regarding their obligations regarding blocking.

The implications to the Fediverse could be huge, including possibly preventing instance level blocking! If I was in government in the US, I'd wait before making any decisions.

usatoday.com/story/news/politi

@futurebird

As a former NYC resident (and New Yorker for life), while a MTA Fediverse instance would be a wonderful thing, I suspect some government agencies in the US are waiting on the Supreme Court decision regarding their obligations regarding blocking.

The implications to the Fediverse could be huge, including possibly preventing instance level blocking! If I was in government in the US, I'd wait before making any decisions.

notsoloud

@serge
They could potentially escape 1st amendment issues if there was a way to keep posts reply-less.

A post marked "non-repliable" would then simply not show any replies on instances/clients that implemented this.

Of course, if they'd like to actually interact with customers, it's a loss.

There's a really good discussion of how ActivityPub handles replies here:

queer.af/@erincandescent/11027

@futurebird

Jim Lillicotch

@futurebird
This is the perfect solution for public notifications. Government, schools, churches, etc. Run your own server and set your own rules.

Yvonne Caruthers

@futurebird I used to send them messages via twitter, to which they’d respond very quickly. I don’t know if they need to join the fediverse, but they **have** built a really good app. TrainTime works really well. One of their conductors even showed me a couple features I hadn’t discovered on my ownβ€”such as the ability to figure out which cars on your train have restrooms. (that’s not trivial)

Michael

@futurebird @briankrebs This is the way. From media organizations, to businesses, to charities… You control your domain, so you can control the federation of your content.

Karen E. Lund πŸ’™πŸ’›

@futurebird Done!

(Although they're getting off Twitter, I'm guessing somebody is still monitoring responses for a while.)

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@futurebird

Just out of curiousity, how does having one's own instance, versus having an account on an existing instance, change things? Does an instance name make it more searchable? Will all other instance members be able to find it.

Alan Twigz

@GregCirillo @futurebird For one, they'd be in control of their own federation with other instances. If they join an existing instance, then that instance is colonized by bots, scammers or Nazis, a bunch of folks would block it and they'd be cut off from other users. If there's a whole instance of just MTA updates and comms, basically no one's defederating from them

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@Quisley @futurebird
Thanks. So, if they have an instance that will broadcast MTA system updates, I assume people who want to have this information merely need to "follow" their instance/account? Is it possible to quickly check on an instance, because just following an account doesn't give you their most recent information.

Space Catitude πŸš€

@GregCirillo @futurebird

It has a lot of benefits, and a few costs.

Benefits:
* You control the moderation, so you can set your own rules and process for that.

* If the server gets overloaded and bogged down, you have the ability to fix that.

* You control branding (to a degree), which software / fork (and therefore what features you have).

* With some software or forks, you have local-only posting (Misskey, Calckey (Misskey), Hometown (Mastodon), Glitch-Social (Mastodon), at least.

@GregCirillo @futurebird

It has a lot of benefits, and a few costs.

Benefits:
* You control the moderation, so you can set your own rules and process for that.

* If the server gets overloaded and bogged down, you have the ability to fix that.

* You control branding (to a degree), which software / fork (and therefore what features you have).

Space Catitude πŸš€

@GregCirillo @futurebird

Costs -- pretty much mirrors of the above:

* You have to do the moderation -- or pay someone to.

* Also sys-admining -- or pay someone to.

* Customization, of course, requires tinkering.

* Again - details to manage: picking and installing software, and/or finding someone to do that for you.

There ARE services that do hosting and system-level administration for Fediverse servers.

Space Catitude πŸš€

@GregCirillo @futurebird

I have a Misskey server that I run on my project site, which really only has me on it, though I plan to open it up to project contributors.

But I also keep this personal account on a server run by a friend. One reason is because it's less hassle. Another is because there is a larger community on this server. And another is because, if my site goes down, I will still have this account to tell people about it!

mav :happy_blob:

@GregCirillo @futurebird the biggest reason, especially for official government organizations or private companies, is that most instances are hosted & made accessible to the public for free by people out of the goodness of their heart, and if a large entity wants to come be part of that then they either need to give back to the instance they're on (which especially for things like governmental organizations can be complicated) or just host their own.

notsoloud

@GregCirillo
You'd need to #FetchAllReplies

Only posts with users/hashtags followed on your instance will show, even if you click a post to check replies. The rest don't go to your instance since no one's asked for it.

Ways of handling that:
1) Join a relay like bigrelay.social
2) Get a client that has the function to ask for replies from OP (#fedilab works for me)
3) Wait for that feature to show up in vanilla mastodon, is on their roadmap, maybe, as I read it

@futurebird

@GregCirillo
You'd need to #FetchAllReplies

Only posts with users/hashtags followed on your instance will show, even if you click a post to check replies. The rest don't go to your instance since no one's asked for it.

Ways of handling that:
1) Join a relay like bigrelay.social
2) Get a client that has the function to ask for replies from OP (#fedilab works for me)
3) Wait for that feature to show up in vanilla mastodon, is on their roadmap, maybe, as I read it

notsoloud

@GregCirillo
Linux nerd, sorry 🀣

There might be posts in this very thread you just don't see. This can cause confusion.

You'll only see them if they're from a user followed by someone on newsie.social. (You see THIS one, because I @'d you)

On a single person instance, you miss a lot. Relays exchange posts to partly fix it.

Sauropods.win will see all replies, because the thread started there. Options 2/3 means a client that knows to ask sauropods for them.

@futurebird

@GregCirillo
Linux nerd, sorry 🀣

There might be posts in this very thread you just don't see. This can cause confusion.

You'll only see them if they're from a user followed by someone on newsie.social. (You see THIS one, because I @'d you)

On a single person instance, you miss a lot. Relays exchange posts to partly fix it.

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@notsoloud Thanks, sincerely. It's really eye opening and explains a lot.

notsoloud

@GregCirillo
The Fediverse is anarcho-syndicalist or libertarian or something like that: Everything is based on individuals that enter and leave agreements at will.

I don't want to live like that in real life, but for information exchange I reckon it's better than the corporate feudalism of Facebook etc.

But for that very reason, it is also quite chaotic - not as a mad fight, but in the sense that most questions have the answer "depends..."

I choose not to fight the chaos but to glory in it.

@GregCirillo
The Fediverse is anarcho-syndicalist or libertarian or something like that: Everything is based on individuals that enter and leave agreements at will.

I don't want to live like that in real life, but for information exchange I reckon it's better than the corporate feudalism of Facebook etc.

Shannon Clark

@GregCirillo @futurebird a few reasons a government agency might want to run their own instance (especially on their own long established domain)

1) verification that the instance and the accounts really are who they claim to be. DNS is pretty good for that combined with their existing communications

2) Compliance esp for government agencies likely need to retain all records and publications

3) continuity of service instead of relying on volunteer admins to keep a server up

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