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Devil Lu Linvega

So, @rek and I got super interested in these vacuum tubes that people put on their rooftops.

We've just cooked our first meal with the sun, and are still a bit shocked at how well it worked out. It's pretty cool out today, it was able to cook potatoes thoroughly in an hour.

#solarpunk cooking

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@neauoire @rek Will these also be good for audiophiles? (Kidding, of course.)
Devil Lu Linvega

@rek Here's a video that shows how hot it gets

Devil Lu Linvega

For more DIY projects to do with the vacuum tubes, there's this really cool workshop website.
dusoleildansnosassiettes.com/t

Devil Lu Linvega

The vacuum tubes are designed to keep the heat in, we have also a reflector that concentrates the sun rays. Some people put these little sun dials that works like a bull's eye to indicate if the reflectors are all angled.

ben🎃ui

@neauoire cooking stuff with the raw power of the sun is so cool

rag. Gustavino Bevilacqua

@neauoire

I translate the name of the website, because "Sun in our dishes" is a great idea.

Devil Lu Linvega

@ddlyh we're not going to share the specific brand but I'm sure you can find similar models based on the handle design. We found ours at a local hardware store.

Calvin Heim

@neauoire That's so cool! 🤩 Which curve is the reflector? Parabolic? Or is it the elusive compound parabolic concentrator?

Devil Lu Linvega

@clh3 it's a piece of bent stainless that curves to follow the shape of the tube. I'm not sure what its name is

Calvin Heim

@neauoire Ooh🤔 that sounds like an involute curve, the first curve segment of a compound parabolic concentrator.

Calvin Heim

@neauoire One word of caution 🚧 : I've heard of tubes freezing and breaking if they're exposed to clear night sky -- but this event occurred with vacuum tubes with interior metal tubes filled with water. The research group at UC Merced had to cover their vacuum tube + reflector experiment at night due to hazardous radiative cooling.

Devil Lu Linvega

@clh3 ours are different, we use the household type that is normally installed on rooftops.

I am Jack's Lost 404

@neauoire

This gives me hope for a DIY green hot tub some day :)

Nina Kalinina

@neauoire @rek yes, they are pretty great when there's sun! I even "baked" with them - but it's more suitable for "steaming". In a good sunny day in London, it takes only ten minutes to boil water.

Devil Lu Linvega

@nina_kali_nina @rek When you boil water, do you pour water directly in, or do you have a long skinny pot that you can slip inside?

slewis

@neauoire @rek cool little solar oven! Does the tube-nature of it actually aid in the cooking process or is just a convenient reuse of vacuum tubes?

Devil Lu Linvega

@slew @rek not sure how the physics work on this thing yet :blob_cat_peek:

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@neauoire @slew @rek
Is it the same principle of a pressure cooker?
Or the reverse? 🤔

Devil Lu Linvega

@NicholasLaney @slew @rek it's not pressurized I think. The vacuum part is the double-walled glass tube.

42GB

@neauoire @rek I love those GoSun solar ovens. But with import taxes and shipping too expensive in the EU. Didn’t found a good alternative yet. Hope it works out for you! Looks good.

R E K

@42GB @neauoire Ppl in France group-buy the vacuum tubes so you can build something similar, might be a good route: dusoleildansnosassiettes.com/b

Devil Lu Linvega

@ifixcoinops @rek we bought it, as we don't have access to a machine shop to make the reflector.

Tiny Frightening Woman

@neauoire @rek oh wow, I’ve never heard of these! I’m off-grid, propane range, will def be checking this out. I remember baking biscuits in a solar oven as a child, basically a cardboard box lined with foil 🤔

R E K

@baba_lilith @neauoire yea building one out of a box with reflectors is what we had planned at first, but the temp doesn't quite get high enough in those for certain things i want to make. Vacuum tubes can get real hot very fast.

Elana

@neauoire Hello! I found this post via a boost from @baba_lilith (thank you!). I’ve wanted one of these solar ovens for some time 😍 does it clean easily?

Devil Lu Linvega

@elana @baba_lilith we're about to find out, we're having lunch in a minute and will clean it after. I'll let you know :)

Devil Lu Linvega

@elana Cleaning was very easy! Used a little green scrubber for the tray.

Elana

@neauoire amazing!! That was really my only hesitation about getting one myself! Thank you so much for sharing your experience ☺️ off to go see where I can source one…..

Devil Lu Linvega

@elana aliexpress sells the tubes for 90$ish. If you can make your own reflectors that's a pretty good deal :)

xs4me2

@neauoire @rek

Interesting, did not know about this….!

Les capsules du prof Lutz

@neauoire wow! où se les procurer au Canada? (Le tube, pas les patates😏 )

Devil Lu Linvega

@lutzray aliexpress, sinon nous on a trouvez ca a home depot.

stevenray

@neauoire @rek who knew?! Certainly not me. Really interesting.

DeterioratedStucco

@neauoire I'm wondering whether these are viable for me (southern England), and guessing not. Where do you live, please? (Approximately!)

Devil Lu Linvega

@SoftwareTheron victoria, canada. We'll test them tomorrow in an overcast sky and let you know.

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@neauoire Do you have to put them on a roof? How do you get to them easily?

Devil Lu Linvega

@RebeccaBoyce we don't have a roof(we live on a sailboat), but you just need an area exposed to the sun.

tom4okstate

@neauoire I had never seen this. Interesting. Could even be useful in certain environments where a fire/smoke might attract unwanted attention.

Hamish

@neauoire @rek wooooow what!

"...pretty cool out... cook potatoes thoroughly in an hour."!?

Sarah and I were looking at these a few months ago (probably you linked haha). Thats waay faster than I expected! Sounds actually good!

They were quite expensive though?

Devil Lu Linvega

@kor @rek if you have the means to making a reflector, you can get the vacuum tubes on their own on aliexpress or in group-buys for 90$ish

Jen Lockwood George

@neauoire Wow, I've never heard of this, but it's so cool!!

vacuumbeef

@neauoire @rek
What's the... Is it an artefact from another dimension?

Devil Lu Linvega

We've been cooking from solar for the past 4 days. So far we've tried potatoes, seitan, brussel sprouts and today we're cooking legumes for the first time.

🌻 The big advantage of using the sun to cook our meals is that instead of using the pressure cooker over the gas stove, which creates a lot of moisture in the galley, we'll be able to make our meals in the summer without heating up the habitat!

R E K

@neauoire today's conditions: 6°C, light wind, sunny :>.

Alexander Cobleigh

@neauoire super cool :) i remember seeing one of these in a lil feature of this super-inventive nomadic shepard grazing in the usa and being awed by it :>

can you take a pic that's a bit farther out and shows how it's set up in general?

Joël Franusic

@neauoire don’t forget the advantage of the satisfaction that comes with using fire that you stole from the gods

Devil Lu Linvega

It blows my mind how hot it gets, check out the steam coming out of the vacuum tube-

uh oh I angered it

doll!

@neauoire I saw "vacuum tube" without context and assumed you were getting into really retro computing

Devil Lu Linvega

@hierarchon "cooking with salvaged soviet radio equipment"

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@neauoire I 100% cannot justify owning one of those as we have a great electric stove powered by mostly clean BC hydro, but you’re making it look really fun

vacuumbeef

@neauoire How long does it take to heat up enough on a sunny day?

Devil Lu Linvega

@vacuumbeef depends on the food inside, but it starts to steam in about 15 minutes.

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Diane 🕵

@neauoire @rek

I was wondering how you tell how far along you are in the cooking process with the vacuum tube solar cookers?

Is it time? smell? can you see the food? or do you have to open it and look? And if you do have to look, does that increase the cooking time depending on how impatient you are?

Also given the long skinny nature. I'm curious if baguettes work.

Can you fit an oven thermometer in there? I think the vacuum tubes get hotter than you can get with less insulated cookers.

Katharina

@neauoire @rek this looks interesting. Habe you got a link where someone could aquire something like this? I imagine it needs full sun? (No cooking on cloudy days).

domnantas

@neauoire This is amazing. It makes so much sense, especially at sea. I wonder if it is possible to bake a baguette, the shape seems perfect for that 😄

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Anders Thoresson

@neauoire @rek Cool! (Or should I rather say “hot”?!j) what to search for to get more information?

Anne

@neauoire very cool! I wouldn't mind trying this at home and when camping.

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