@dansup We won't see a federated TikTok because the...

@dansup We won't see a federated TikTok because the core of what made TikTok popular is an advanced video recording & editing app and an advanced content discovery algorithm.

It is not enough to just create a server that accepts video file uploads and distributes them to followers and call it "federated TikTok".

Like 1 16 Jul 2021 at 8:55 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.social

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dansup

@Gargron Yeah I agree with that, but I'd say its more than just the editing + algorithm. The onboarding is something else, not requiring an account to browse the feed is interesting.

It kind of reminded me of pleroma, used to think it was tacky they didnt have a landing page but maybe they are on to something.

16 Jul 2021 at 9:04 | Open on mastodon.social

Eugen Rochko

@dansup I doubt the web presence played a role in the app's rise.

16 Jul 2021 at 9:13 | Open on mastodon.social

dansup

@Gargron I meant the app, you don't need an account to start browsing on the app or web.

Regarding video editing, they have a separate app called CapCut. IG has pretty advanced video editing too, but their Reels feature is full of TikToks, so IMO its more than just that.

16 Jul 2021 at 9:15 | Open on mastodon.social

Eugen Rochko

@dansup Sure, I agree that's beneficial. Though I doubt they would allow browsing anonymously if they didn't have a good algorithm for showing popular content.

16 Jul 2021 at 9:23 | Open on mastodon.social

Yazhu

@Gargron @dansup anything minus the algorithm would work though?

Maybe we should all develop a universal open source algorithm library, since content at It's core, just works the same in anywhere else. everyone who's working on a social media/fedi app would be interested in contributing to that.

16 Jul 2021 at 9:06 | Open on cdrom.tokyo

Eugen Rochko

@YaYu @dansup Video editing is slightly more complicated to code than your typical text with autocomplete and image attachments that you see in fediverse apps. I don't think we'll see it from a fediverse developer without significant financial investment and a respect for what made the original popular. Not that I think TikTok needs to be added to the fediverse. I'm not a fan of straight up clones anyway.

16 Jul 2021 at 9:11 | Open on mastodon.social

stux⚡

@Gargron @dansup Challange accepted ✅ :blobcatgiggle:

20 Jul 2022 at 12:28 | Open on mstdn.social

Delroy L

@Gargron @dansup I hope something creative would be done in a open source manor not just benefiting Meta

17 Mar 2023 at 2:36 | Open on mastodon.sdf.org

rezonant

@Gargron @dansup I don't think the editor matters. I wonder if it's possible to do a TF two tower recommendations model in a way that's privacy preserving and still accomplishes tiktok's responsiveness (https://arxiv.org/abs/2209.07663), while using a federated model for video hosting, delivery, and perhaps even the deep learning processing. Thinking deeply about this lately. Have your thoughts changed?

3 July at 11:01 | Open on cliff.social