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Daniel Yeo

@aral yes, I hear and see that. But sadly it's not going away. It is top down but it is we are also still the content. And in many ways its a mirror to the duality of mankind.
So the question I'm asking myself is to walk away, keep your hands clean and hope it dies. Or. Infiltrate, poison the data pool, switch the dynamic up?
Perhaps I'm just hopelessly naive here but is there no hope in the kinder human nature?

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dmhindle

@yukinosaru @aral I have great hope in a kinder human nature, both because it is the only way we will survive and because our own society shows a halting and uneven evolution in that direction. But the many people who feel they benefit from the current systems of power and privilege are not going to change and they are going to fight changes to the systems they depend on. Unlike our planet, we can leave the world of Twitter to create a better one.

Aral Balkan

@yukinosaru I mean, by all means if you want to infiltrate/sabotage that system, go for it. Sabotage is the only legitimate means of changing such a system from the inside (but Iโ€™m not necessarily convinced of its long-term effectiveness).

Personally, I prefer to create. To work on alternatives. To try and help build the kind of world I want to live in.

Iโ€™ve railed against that system long enough and let me tell you, itโ€™s a soul-destroying affair. I still call it out but my focus is creating.

Eirliani A Rahman

@aral @yukinosaru Beautifully said, Aral. Yes, there is much value in creating indeed.

Daniel Yeo

@aral I'm not really advocating for sabotage, I've muddled two thought streams there. My main point is that I do find that there is still value there and I'm questioning whether and how my own behaviour has contributed to the toxicity and how I might do things differently.

I too believe that creation is the better choice and I've also tried to build and live the world that I want to see, although in a different domain. Interrogating my own instincts and behaviours is part of my growth journey.

Dave Lane ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ

@aral @yukinosaru agreed - trying to change a broken system from within generally sees the idealists who go into it with that aim (to justify the pangs of conscience felt when taking such highly remunerated roles) ground down & recast as a rationalising apologist, redefining 'good' so that it includes them and their behaviour. Extreme cognitive dissonance. I've seen it many times over the last 20 years. The system sabotages idealists with far greater certainty than idealists sabotage the system.

FinchHaven

@yukinosaru @aral

"Or. Infiltrate, poison the data pool, switch the dynamic up?"

Oh, please

Stop dreaming

You and what Seven Nation Army is going to generate enough tweet volume to "poison the data pool, switch the dynamic up?"

You're only helping #ElonMusk to bail out a sinking ship

catjungle

@FinchHaven @yukinosaru @aral @flyswatter If no one is there, it won't be relevant. If everyone with a conscience just left, it would be Truth Social within a month. It's so easy to migrate the whole operation here. I don't understand why people don't just do it. They have to stay and enrich Elon and the fascists and keep him and his "own the conversation" relevant. They can't be inconvenienced in the slightest. They are complicit.

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