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Chris Trottier

BIG NEWS: Pawoo.net, the world's 2nd biggest Mastodon instance, has just been acquired.

The entity acquiring them is the Mask Group, an entity that also runs mstdn.jp and mastodon.cloud. They are also active in the so-called "Web 3.0" space.

If you haven't heard of pawoo.net, it's because many instances have de-federated from it.

finance.yahoo.com/news/mask-ne

445 comments
Riley S. Faelan

@atomicpoet: Given the situation, are you sure sure it wasn't the Musk Group?

One can't be too careful these days. :blobcatbox:​

Angie πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

@atomicpoet Uggggggh. Can we just line the venture capitalists against the wall (in Roblox) already?

Brian Knudtson :veri_nope:

@atomicpoet Swamp professionals acquire another swamp. World awaits grifting implosion.

bnotwen

@atomicpoet

> The Pawoo acquisition marks another milestone of the Mask team towards the building of a decentralized social network and a free, open internet.

Not sure how consolidating the top instances leads to decentralizing but ok.

Joan Mastodon

@atomicpoet I sincerely hope that most new users will go on to form smaller servers with friends, family, community, etc., once they've figured out how things work. These large-scale instances are the biggest risk to the Fedi imo.

News media, nonprofits, and govt entities can help encourage this by starting their own instance - show people the possibilities.

Ralf Rottmann

Disagree with the general statement. As so often in life, it's about integrity. I run a server which currently hosts 35.000+ people. I won't ever sell. People should get into the habit of reading the About pages of their servers. That allows them to judge and project. Mine is at home.social/about.

@jonielena @atomicpoet

Joan Mastodon

@ralf @atomicpoet It's great that you run your server with integrity. My comment wasn't directed at you or any other specific server.

My comment was about the systemic dangers of the Fediverse existing primarily as a few large instances, which is not very different from the current social media model. Resiliency and sustainability need to be built from the ground up. Simply crossing our fingers and hoping for integrity doesn't seem like a very resilient model.

joene πŸ΄πŸ‰πŸŒ²

@atomicpoet Thank you for the heads-up. Despite that this is bad news, hopefully the good news is, is that they will purge all lolicon and other virtual child porn from pawoo. Although I doubt that this will happen.

Michael Cervieri

@atomicpoet my initial reaction is, yuck. but then i think it inevitable that some deep pockets will come in. eg, mozilla, although i recognize they're a different case since they'll be starting their instance from scratch.
running and maintaining servers can get pricey and someone needs to foot the bill(s). i don't know pawoo from a hole in the wall but you're right when you say we really need to know our admins and move elsewhere if we don't like what we find.

Baloo Uriza

@atomicpoet I feel like you might have been out of the loop on this one, Pawoo's always been a corporate instance from the moment Pivix stood it up, and Mask Group would be, at a minimum, it's third owner.

Zagreb

@atomicpoet This is why we can’t have nice things.

Michael Gartenberg

@atomicpoet it's like that old 3 Dog Night song "Elon's Coming"

Joy Denebeim :tv: :tb: :pa:

@atomicpoet I haven't heard of any of those sites. Are you sure they aren't all plot by rapid block?

Matt, from the internet

@atomicpoet ah the "Web 3.0 Space" aka "The Grift Space"

Kabi-nyan :verified_trans:

@atomicpoet@mastodon.social I'm surprised anyone would be willing to buy Pawoo considering the reason it's so widely defederated

Weston :thisIsFine:

@atomicpoet that article talking about the acquisition and how it’s furthering their goal of building a decentralized social network in the same breath… I wonder if they see the irony.

teddy πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ

@atomicpoet would they even be able to make money off of instances? or is this just another mass speculation where the goal is to not be the sucker that buys last

Marti Abernathey

@atomicpoet that's the beautiful thing about mastodon/decentralisation. Corporations can't just buy their way into things.

Eirliani A Rahman

@atomicpoet Ugh, not great news. Thank you for sharing this, Chris.

Why have many instances de-federated from pawoo.net?

Elias MΓ₯rtenson

@eirliani @atomicpoet There is a lot of posts with questionable content there (potentially illegal). Add to that the fact that almost all content is Japanese, the choice to defederate is pretty easy for most instance admins.

Eirliani A Rahman

@loke @atomicpoet Ahh, I see. Thank you for the explanation, Elias.

grumpy #KillThePawooners
@eirliani @atomicpoet pawoo is full of a lot of very interesting individuals.

follow @pawoo for more info
David Lewis

@atomicpoet

the love of money...as the saying goes

*sigh*

piebob ✨

@atomicpoet i originally joined mastodon.cloud back in ~2018, but in recent weeks the local tl became completely overrun with spammers posting offers to do fake product reviews on ebay etc.
no one seemed to be reviewing any of my reports, so i changed instances.

Stop That

@atomicpoet @eirliani Why have so many instances defederated from pawoo.net?

Simon Garnier

@atomicpoet I guess it was just a matter of time before something like this started happening. I wonder how that will turn out for them given that moving around in the fediverse without losing your network is much easier than with centralized networks like Twitter and the likes.

noodle

@atomicpoet is there a comprehensive list of things to evaluate when choosing an instance. Besides hearing "trust me bro" from the admin?
Bonus points if my 50yo parents can use that list.

kgoldsholl

@atomicpoet they're investing a lot of $$ in acquiring Mastadon instances. How do they plan to monetize that investment? Are ads allowed? Can they sell data?

Shoq

@atomicpoet What is the source of the contempt for them that results in defederation?

Brian Transplant

@atomicpoet Admin here. What's the verdict on the other two domains?

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