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Darius Kazemi

Everything *else* aside, having a government account hosted on a community server seems an awful lot like having a government website hosted at something like

bobspersonalpage.com/users/~InternalRevenueService

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Diane 🕵

@darius @zundan

I think the EU is explicitly angry at US tech companies and is intentionally trying to create alternatives.

So it'd make sense they'd have their own mastodon servers long before the US, which has a pretty cozy relationship with the local tech near monopolies.

Greg

@darius I think of it as similar to the government putting up a poster in a privately owned public meeting place (with permission), which doesn't strike me as that strange.

Harp :wigglytuff:

@darius it is like they are going about this in a way to hit every single item on "checklist of flags we train people to look for in spotting fakes for phishing attempts" and i'm not even remotely in the field, yet i keep needing to stare into the middle distance about it

PeoriaBummer

@darius but what if they can read my public posts? What then?!

Diane 🕵

@darius Though ...

Like the government is normally really slow at being allowed to do anything, so it's quite possible it'll take them a few months to actually get approval to host an instance.

So maybe letting neutral or better entities on somewhere as test case, and then saying after trial period is over and if this works out for your group you should host your own thing elsewhere?

(Like I thought who ever was running the IRStaxsecurity feed on twitter was doing a good job with their PSAs. nitter.nl/IRStaxsecurity/ )

@darius Though ...

Like the government is normally really slow at being allowed to do anything, so it's quite possible it'll take them a few months to actually get approval to host an instance.

So maybe letting neutral or better entities on somewhere as test case, and then saying after trial period is over and if this works out for your group you should host your own thing elsewhere?

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Josh Lee

@darius i didn't bookmark it, but i surfed the web sites of many municipalities in western PA and i'm pretty at least one of them was hosted on Tripod.

flatplanet

@darius I think its more like a rebel inside trying to drag the #bureaucracy into the real world but having to make the "case" to justify the government actually doing it

Rep. Eric Gallager (no "h"!)

@darius how would a government go about setting up its own server? I'm filing a bunch of FOSS-related legislation here in NH and am wondering if maybe I should add something about social media services...

Darius Kazemi

@egallager excellent question and I imagine it would be related to the process for setting up a web server! and clearly very different in different countries, states, and local jurisdictions

s0: Soldering Sorceress

@darius this is slander against Bob, who is clearly a trustworthy guy

Space Hobo Actual

@darius Or like that time that H.M. Treasury set up a discord.

A tweet from @hmtreasury saying "HM Treasury is now on @discord" and providing a link to "a read-only server".
A Discord post from "HMTreasurySocialAdmin1" promoting Chancellor Jeremy Hunt's statements on labour market statistics.  People are reacting with emoji including pride flags, suggestive aubergines, clown faces, a middle-finger gesture, and individual letters spelling "CUNT" in sequence beneath the post.
Beneath an administrative notice that HMTreasurySocialAdmin1 had pinned a message to the channel, the emoji reactions spell out "FUCK THE ROYALS"
neville park

@darius this is also how I feel about celebrities joining general-purpose instances. Like an actor coming to town for a star-studded film festival and staying on someone's couch.

Peter Amstutz

@darius
Its just a stopgap until they can give Lockheed a $77m contract to stand up a mastodon instance

Darius Kazemi

if you like websites that have the energy of, say,

anissas-world.com/CatsILove/FuzzyEars.htm

you should check out wiby.me , my favorite search engine

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Darius Kazemi

@smadin I am glad I was able to click and learn more about the MeowJin Boo lifestyle

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W.M. Akers

@darius This was the first thing I found, 10/10 great search engine no notes.

marc.merlins.org/linux/refundd

llewelly

@darius
true, but the alternative is elorgmushmelonspersonalpage.com/users/~InternalRevenueService

Darius Kazemi

@llewelly ehhh I think the alternative is social.irs.gov

llewelly

@darius in all seriousnessness, that is entirely correct; I'm just too prone to impulsive easy jokes. Sorry.

Darius Kazemi

@llewelly oh! sorry, didn't catch it as a joke (I am getting a lot of earnest response here)

llewelly

@darius yeah, my fault for not including some kind of tell.

Kadin

@darius Agreed, but I think it's understandable in the short run: getting permission to create an official account on a 3rd-party site is probably pretty straightforward; getting permission to stand up a server (or server-like container), obtain a subdomain, update DNS, get the application STIG'd and approved, and deploy the application to the Internet… I bet that's at least 6-12 months, easy.

Mastodon makes it fairly easy to migrate accounts in the future, so it seems reasonable.

Natalie A.

@darius angelofdoom.geocities.com/gov/BureauLandMgmt

writehere.is

@darius its a strange idea.

it may be the best way for them to get to know what people are actually like,

but given their track record i wouldnt expect them to do anything other than use it as a datamine..

Jesse Vincent

@darius @gizmomathboy To me it has the vibes of “very early days of something important, before federal IT can get their act together”

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