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crasher35

@Gargron @aagesundvor Probably not based on other posts of his 😐

Aage Johan Sundvor

@Gargron it's not a joke. Just wait and see how they will purge peoples freedoms and give more power to the elite and big bankers.

Eugen Rochko

@aagesundvor Damn, you're Norwegian, you should know better. Your entire country is more left than Biden, lol.

Aage Johan Sundvor

@Gargron thats why I know better what Bidens politic is. I think that you will get more war, and more identety politic and leftist bull crap like critical race theory were we are supposed to start thinking of peoples race and stuff like that instead of looking at people as individuals no mather what race, religion or what ever they belong to.
I judge you by the content of your charachter and not by the color of your skin.

sacredbirdman

@aagesundvor @Gargron The problem here what Eugen tried to allude to is that Biden, the elite and big bankers have nothing to do with leftism.

Aage Johan Sundvor

@sacredbirdman @Gargron well it was the left that voted him to power, and it is the left that pushes cencorship, critical race theory and so on.
I do not like the left or the right. I just want freedom and to be respected as an individual.

Eugen Rochko

@aagesundvor @sacredbirdman Bro the left wanted Bernie Sanders. It's the American "center" that voted in Biden.

Aage Johan Sundvor

@Gargron @sacredbirdman Bernie Sanders is a joke. Even when he knew Hillary and the party f!%@% him and his supporters he gave his full support to Hillary and the elite. He also changed his wording from attacking milionars to bilionars as soon as he himself become a milionar.
He also is part of the elite.

micky

@aagesundvor @sacredbirdman @Gargron seems reasonable - I wonder if left vs right is just a made up concept to control the masses - keeps the media & politicians in power
youtube.com/watch?v=ZOYasdeum2

Aage Johan Sundvor

@futurepunk @sacredbirdman @Gargron thats what it is in my opinion.
Ask yourself. Do you have more in comon with other working men and women even if they are on the other political specter than you, or do you think you have more in comon with the elite and the bankers?
Ask then why you are fighting other working class men and women.

sacredbirdman

@aagesundvor @futurepunk @Gargron
I agree that we working class people have more in common with each other, across the borders than we have with the people in power. Also, they certainly have in their best interest to keep up at each others throats to not have solidarity towards each other... We should form unions and fight for the rights of the working class people and vote to reduce the power of the oligarchs.

micky

@sacredbirdman @aagesundvor @Gargron not sure what the solution is - even unions can become too powerful & exploit their position - a few were taken over by the mafia - at their best they provide fairness & equity - at their worst they are essentially an extortion racket - this seems like a good place to potentially find answers:
nwspk.com/

sacredbirdman

@futurepunk @aagesundvor @Gargron
Well, any organization or position can be corrupted, so that's not very good argument against organizing. We co-operation to exist as a species and any larger scale co-operation needs organization. We need to organize in a way that minimized the possibility of corruption such as: democracy, transparency, accountability and rotation of management.

micky replied to

@sacredbirdman @aagesundvor @Gargron maybe ideally 8 billion people = 8 billion independent organizations who have the ability to exist anywhere on an ideological sphere on any subject - that would be a more true decentralized democracy - only thing is, most people are too lazy to engage on that scale - which is probably why a liquid democracy party fizzled out in Europe

micky replied to micky

@sacredbirdman @aagesundvor @Gargron wonder if an idea should just be an 'idea' - rather than fix it to any particular position on a chart - it can be anywhere in a candy store - that way people are free to pick & mix

Aage Johan Sundvor replied to micky

@futurepunk @sacredbirdman @Gargron I agree but for that to wprk we need a fundation to build the marketplace of ideas on, and that fundation have to be freedom of speach, the right to private ownership/property and the right to defend yourself.

With out these rights you have no rights.

And right to the pursuit of happiness.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life,_

Eugen Rochko replied to Aage Johan Sundvor

@aagesundvor @futurepunk @sacredbirdman With all my respect, please shut the fuck up in my thread about codemiko

micky replied to Eugen

@Gargron @aagesundvor @sacredbirdman Can't tell if this is a joke? - he wants to censor his thread about censorship - its a good indicator mastodon has been built by another wannabe dictator who wants to silence/censor people - twitter is toxic, but I've never been told to 'shut the fuck up' on it - think I will migrate to elastos feeds & support their initiative - I think anyone searching for the future of the internet will find mastodon is ultimately a dead end
elastos.info/feeds-native-avai

@Gargron @aagesundvor @sacredbirdman Can't tell if this is a joke? - he wants to censor his thread about censorship - its a good indicator mastodon has been built by another wannabe dictator who wants to silence/censor people - twitter is toxic, but I've never been told to 'shut the fuck up' on it - think I will migrate to elastos feeds & support their initiative - I think anyone searching for the future of the internet will find mastodon is ultimately a dead end
elastos.info/feeds-native-avai

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