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Aage Johan Sundvor

@sacredbirdman @Gargron well it was the left that voted him to power, and it is the left that pushes cencorship, critical race theory and so on.
I do not like the left or the right. I just want freedom and to be respected as an individual.

21 Jan 2021 at 16:52 | Open on mastodon.city
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Eugen Rochko

@aagesundvor @sacredbirdman Bro the left wanted Bernie Sanders. It's the American "center" that voted in Biden.

21 Jan 2021 at 16:53 | Open on mastodon.social
Aage Johan Sundvor

@Gargron @sacredbirdman Bernie Sanders is a joke. Even when he knew Hillary and the party f!%@% him and his supporters he gave his full support to Hillary and the elite. He also changed his wording from attacking milionars to bilionars as soon as he himself become a milionar.
He also is part of the elite.

21 Jan 2021 at 17:01 | Open on mastodon.city
micky

@aagesundvor @sacredbirdman @Gargron seems reasonable - I wonder if left vs right is just a made up concept to control the masses - keeps the media & politicians in power
youtube.com/watch?v=ZOYasdeum2

21 Jan 2021 at 21:01 | Open on fosstodon.org
Aage Johan Sundvor

@futurepunk @sacredbirdman @Gargron thats what it is in my opinion.
Ask yourself. Do you have more in comon with other working men and women even if they are on the other political specter than you, or do you think you have more in comon with the elite and the bankers?
Ask then why you are fighting other working class men and women.

21 Jan 2021 at 21:11 | Open on mastodon.city
sacredbirdman

@aagesundvor @futurepunk @Gargron
I agree that we working class people have more in common with each other, across the borders than we have with the people in power. Also, they certainly have in their best interest to keep up at each others throats to not have solidarity towards each other... We should form unions and fight for the rights of the working class people and vote to reduce the power of the oligarchs.

21 Jan 2021 at 21:48 | Open on mastodon.online
micky

@sacredbirdman @aagesundvor @Gargron not sure what the solution is - even unions can become too powerful & exploit their position - a few were taken over by the mafia - at their best they provide fairness & equity - at their worst they are essentially an extortion racket - this seems like a good place to potentially find answers:
nwspk.com/

21 Jan 2021 at 22:16 | Open on fosstodon.org
sacredbirdman

@futurepunk @aagesundvor @Gargron
Well, any organization or position can be corrupted, so that's not very good argument against organizing. We co-operation to exist as a species and any larger scale co-operation needs organization. We need to organize in a way that minimized the possibility of corruption such as: democracy, transparency, accountability and rotation of management.

22 Jan 2021 at 0:04 | Open on mastodon.online
micky replied to

@sacredbirdman @aagesundvor @Gargron maybe ideally 8 billion people = 8 billion independent organizations who have the ability to exist anywhere on an ideological sphere on any subject - that would be a more true decentralized democracy - only thing is, most people are too lazy to engage on that scale - which is probably why a liquid democracy party fizzled out in Europe

22 Jan 2021 at 0:50 | Open on fosstodon.org
micky replied to micky

@sacredbirdman @aagesundvor @Gargron wonder if an idea should just be an 'idea' - rather than fix it to any particular position on a chart - it can be anywhere in a candy store - that way people are free to pick & mix
22 Jan 2021 at 4:19 | Open on fosstodon.org
Aage Johan Sundvor replied to micky

@futurepunk @sacredbirdman @Gargron I agree but for that to wprk we need a fundation to build the marketplace of ideas on, and that fundation have to be freedom of speach, the right to private ownership/property and the right to defend yourself.

With out these rights you have no rights.

And right to the pursuit of happiness.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life,_

22 Jan 2021 at 13:23 | Open on mastodon.city
Eugen Rochko replied to Aage Johan Sundvor

@aagesundvor @futurepunk @sacredbirdman With all my respect, please shut the fuck up in my thread about codemiko

22 Jan 2021 at 15:27 | Open on mastodon.social
micky replied to Eugen

@Gargron @aagesundvor @sacredbirdman Can't tell if this is a joke? - he wants to censor his thread about censorship - its a good indicator mastodon has been built by another wannabe dictator who wants to silence/censor people - twitter is toxic, but I've never been told to 'shut the fuck up' on it - think I will migrate to elastos feeds & support their initiative - I think anyone searching for the future of the internet will find mastodon is ultimately a dead end
elastos.info/feeds-native-avai

@Gargron @aagesundvor @sacredbirdman Can't tell if this is a joke? - he wants to censor his thread about censorship - its a good indicator mastodon has been built by another wannabe dictator who wants to silence/censor people - twitter is toxic, but I've never been told to 'shut the fuck up' on it - think I will migrate to elastos feeds & support their initiative - I think anyone searching for the future of the internet will find mastodon is ultimately a dead end
elastos.info/feeds-native-avai

22 Jan 2021 at 22:19 | Open on fosstodon.org
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