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whats the best unicode character to represent the fediverse? we need a symbol that is already encoded!

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Allan Haverholm

@liaizon There isn't even an agreed, collective symbol for the fediverse.

This proposal is most generally used commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/F but because the fediverse has no governing body, or a way to reach more than an informal consensus, that's the closest thing.

Anarchist movements have less trouble finding a common symbol than the fediverse! 😆

Raphaël

@liaizon I would advocate for:
❅ (connected network, snowflakes are cool, a bit small / too complex, has a central point)
⁂ (decentralized: no central point, but lacks of connections, easy to read in small size, a bit too triforce?)

wakest ⁂

so far the suggestions (ignoring the joke suggestions) are:

@Moon: ꙮ
@haverholm: ❆
@raphael: ❅ or ⁂

Raphaël

@liaizon @Moon @haverholm The choice -if choice there is- must be done with care, semantics of each character have to be studied to avoid reappropriation or original meanings we want to avoid. Btw the history behind ꙮ is so fun… en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiocu

Allan Haverholm

@liaizon @raphael I like Moon's, too. I'll have to look up its meaning, though.

wakest ⁂

❊ is another good snowflake, its nice thats its made up of 9 different separate points

wakest ⁂

thinking about iconography, I love are.na's logo and and it would be sorta funny to use ⁂ cause it's about the same with an extra *

added in my screenshot is element's logo that feels a but bland to me but does express some type of interaction of discrete servers

wakest ⁂

to play with @raphael's suggestion heres the ⁂ on a gradient filled rounded rectangular

wakest ⁂

@raphael I never thought that asterisks can have different amounts of points but looking thru the fonts on my phone apparently they do

Raphaël

@liaizon Yes! and 6 branch asterisks makes good connections possibilities.

wakest ⁂

@raphael oh thats pretty slick actually cause now there is a 🧊 in the middle

Raphaël

@liaizon Yes… I am trying to remember such a logo I know with 3 stars forming one box. Can’t put the finger on it yet…

wakest ⁂

@raphael trying to draw on a napkin is hard but theres a lot of ways to represent these lines

wakest ⁂

@raphael yoooo this is great! I think we are on to something!

Raphaël

@liaizon Still I believe the best shapes are the simplest (+ subtle joints)

wakest ⁂

ok @raphael we need to come back to this thread! I have been thinking about this for months and I still think a new fediverse logo is needed and I think the stacked *** / ⁂ is the best thing we have come up with

wakest ⁂ replied to wakest

@neauoire as someone who has a really wonderful sense of design and aesthetic sensibility and also thinks about things in a longer term thinking kinda way, do you have any ideas about how to help guild a framework that could help convey a sense of cohesiveness when designing for the fediverse?

Devil Lu Linvega replied to wakest

@liaizon well, iconography is a good start, for example, there's no social icon that represents the fediverse, some people put the mastodon logo which is very bizarre to me, but if you liked, maybe the best thing we can do is start using the 3 stars(⁂) as a profile website icon.

If @raphael makes me a cleaned up svg of it, I'll put it up on my wiki, and I'm certain I can inspire a handful others to do the same. Moving away from a software icon to a platform icon would be a good first step.

Devil Lu Linvega replied to Raphaël

@raphael @liaizon @nclm Do I have your permission to use it on my website, clean up the file from all extraneous information(ids, classes, styles, etc..), and to reshare so others may also do the same?

wakest ⁂ replied to Devil Lu Linvega

@neauoire @raphael @nclm before you add it to your site do you mind if we tweak it a bit more? I have some ideas I want to discus and I am currently making some mockups. I feel like as soon as Devine uses it we will get a ton of people jumping on it (: and it would be cool to be a bit more "ready"

Devil Lu Linvega replied to wakest

@liaizon @raphael @nclm I love the idea, it'll help cement the idea that it's an ecosystem and a protocol, and not a single piece of software.

wakest ⁂ replied to Devil Lu Linvega

Hey @neauoire only took us 20 months but @raphael, @nclm and myself finally launched symbol.fediverse.info and set up the @FediverseSymbol account for it. Would love it if you were still interested in being involved or even just using it!

wakest ⁂

a list of suggested unicode symbols to represent the fediverse:
@Moon: ꙮ
@haverholm: ❆
@raphael: ⁂
@maikek: ∞
@mariusor: ꖜ
@singitout: ᵮ
@kerleone: 𖡦
@lukasfx: ⨕
@humanetech: 🕸️
@wago: ⛢

KerLeone

@liaizon @haverholm @raphael @maikek @mariusor @singitout @lukasfx @humanetech @wago

𔗢

Late find: this amazing sign from the anatolian hieroglyph chart that fits perfectly, but probably it doesn't render on so many OS's? Debian does it.

wakest ⁂

@kerleone wow thats an amazing find! I am also on Debian rn and its displaying (tho very tiny), but it doesn't show up on iOS 14.1

Maike

@liaizon i only see placeholders for the suggestions from mariusor and kerleone?

wakest ⁂

thanks to @yhancik I learned about the firefox font inspector and can report that on Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye), Gnome Version 3.38.5, Wayland, running Firefox 91.13.0esr these emojis are being displayed by the following fonts:

Roboto Regular: ꙮ ᵮ ⁂ ∞
DejaVu Sans: ❆ ⨕ ⛢
FreeSans: ꖜ
Noto Sans Bamum Regular: 𖡦

Emoji / Mastodon renders as image: 🕸️

thanks to @yhancik I learned about the firefox font inspector and can report that on Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye), Gnome Version 3.38.5, Wayland, running Firefox 91.13.0esr these emojis are being displayed by the following fonts:

Roboto Regular: ꙮ ᵮ ⁂ ∞
DejaVu Sans: ❆ ⨕ ⛢
FreeSans: ꖜ
Noto Sans Bamum Regular: 𖡦

Seri

@liaizon @haverholm @raphael
@maikek: ∞
That one is quite special as it also represents the company of a certain Mr. Zuck... But maybe we can define it in a new way 😆

Maike

@liaizon is the symbol for "infinite" available in unicode?

marius

@liaizon

߷ or ꖜ or 🜉or 🝖 ?

ᖷᖴ ?

wakest ⁂

@mariusor

interesting that 🝖 almost contains ᖷᖴ inside it

marius

@liaizon that's the alchemical symbol for dung, just as a side note, which might be very appropriate :D

singitout

@liaizon
Latin Small Letter F With Middle Tilde ᵮ

Combining Cyrillic Hundred Thousands Sign .. ҈

KerLeone

@liaizon
Here are some nice ones
҈
߷

ᮿediverse

Ⓕediverse



𖡗

𑣮

𒀱 (impressive!)

𒐰

𓃑
𔘒
𖡍
𖡎
𖡛
𖡦 (one of my favorites)
𖡷
𖡹 (another nice one)
𖡼
𖢅
𖣔
𖣥
𖣴
𖤓
𖥚

wakest ⁂

@kerleone wow thanks there are some gems in here I hadn't thought of at all!

Lukas Fuchsgruber

@liaizon
I don‘t have good suggestion, just love to look through unicode lists…
∮∯∰∱∲∳⨋
⨌⨍⨎⨏⨐⨑⨒⨓
⨔⨕⨖⨗⨘⨙⨚
∯ ⩩ ⦂ ⋰ 𝕱

wakest ⁂

@lukasfx
∮edi
∰edi
∱edi
⨎edi
⨐edi
⨑edi
⨓edi
⨗edi
⨘edi

smallcircles (Humane Tech Now)

@liaizon

Surprised that full list of #Unicode emoji's hasn't one to depict a network, let alone a decentralized network, or even one representing the internet.

unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-

I came no further than:

🕸️ spiderweb emoji U+1F578

❄️ snowflake emoji U+2744

Given that #Fediverse is owned by no one, that it is indicative of a large group of people (millions), and has its own culture in a similar way that countries have flags, and religions their own emoji, the fedi should have its #emoji

@liaizon

Surprised that full list of #Unicode emoji's hasn't one to depict a network, let alone a decentralized network, or even one representing the internet.

unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-

I came no further than:

🕸️ spiderweb emoji U+1F578

❄️ snowflake emoji U+2744

Given that #Fediverse is owned by no one, that it is indicative of a large group of people (millions), and has its own culture in a similar way that countries have flags, and religions their own emoji, the fedi should have its

wakest ⁂

@humanetech the spiderweb 🕸 is pretty good I forgot that one exists

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@humanetech There is 🖧 U+1F5A7 three networked computers, if that helps.

@liaizon

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@humanetech Which likely means you need newer emoji font on your device.

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@liaizon It's a part of “Miscellaneous Symbols And Pictographs” block. I think, only Noto Sans Symbols 2 has it on my system.

@humanetech

propaganda bot #217306

@liaizon ⍼, since it doesnt already have an existing meaning

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